Deep Bass And How To

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Cool Ideas, seems a bit much to go filter instead of a shelf or notch though, eh? Ill give it a go.

Well the principal comes from earlier jungle. think about 90s jungle from the UK. Its all about the amen break, pitched up. so the drums are really kinda tiney and high, then youve got this huge amount of space for your reese/bass (which was usually an 808 sample looped very quickly or detuned saw waves).

With regard to bass, dont cast off envelopes as subtle pitch modulate making the note slide in at the begining can prevent that clash of frequencies with your kick. Same goes to Filter modulation, listen to Bad Company - The Nine the bassline has a LPfilter envelope on the patch so that it 'growls' in giving room for the kick each time it hits - the same principal could be used for HPfilters, sliding it in.
Bass sound-wise, ideas can vary from the aformentions 808 sampling, to saw waves detuned really far apart (like 20cents each way) that gives the movement when your bassline hits diffferent notes as the detuned amount oscillates faster as your moved up the scale (really nice effect imo!) (this is called the Reese/Reece - I cant remember which)
Try using two (or more) different waveforms for variation and go mad with modulation of any paramteres you want.

The other 'trick' you can use is maybe not someting Id reccomend but worth trying. Mixing your other elements lower than you normally would in the mixdown so that it gives the impression the bass is louder/more present than normal.

[Michael Hatsis]

Cool Ideas, seems a bit much to go filter instead of a shelf or notch though, eh? Ill give it a go.

Well the principal comes from earlier jungle. think about 90s jungle from the UK. Its all about the amen break, pitched up. so the drums are really kinda tiney and high, then youve got this huge amount of space for your reese/bass (which was usually an 808 sample looped very quickly or detuned saw waves).

With regard to bass, dont cast off envelopes as subtle pitch modulate making the note slide in at the begining can prevent that clash of frequencies with your kick. Same goes to Filter modulation, listen to Bad Company - The Nine the bassline has a LPfilter envelope on the patch so that it 'growls' in giving room for the kick each time it hits - the same principal could be used for HPfilters, sliding it in.
Bass sound-wise, ideas can vary from the aformentions 808 sampling, to saw waves detuned really far apart (like 20cents each way) that gives the movement when your bassline hits diffferent notes as the detuned amount oscillates faster as your moved up the scale (really nice effect imo!) (this is called the Reese/Reece - I cant remember which)
Try using two (or more) different waveforms for variation and go mad with modulation of any paramteres you want.

The other 'trick' you can use is maybe not someting Id reccomend but worth trying. Mixing your other elements lower than you normally would in the mixdown so that it gives the impression the bass is louder/more present than normal.

Makes sense in regards to the pitched amen or any kick with out to much low end. really depends on if you want the bass or kick to dominate - good to know how to do both. Been exta fortifying my kicks lately.
All good points and ideas though. yeah pitch env in Bass is huge as is glide. Also, Been Lovin the ladder bp filter on operator for basses - low freq, Quick envelope and decent res. that filter is super cool, the resonance doesn't seem to respond in a traditional way. kind of varies from patch to patch.


Stackin up basses, distortion and amp modelers and bussing.

why are you against mixing bass louder than the rest? Lot's of times Ill try to set me bass up with lots of freqs - so its kinda the centerpiece of the song/part. kinda just been real into bass and drums these days. Just makin it pound.