How is Live 8 with vista 32bit?

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Re: How is Live 8 with vista 32bit?

Post by musicmachine » Sat Jul 25, 2009 10:44 pm

outsidesys wrote:A quick look at Dell's web site shows that almost all of the XP drivers for the Inspiron 1525 were last updated in 2008. They're only a year or more old. Why not try XP anyway? You may be pleasantly surprised.

Just purchase a cheap hard drive for your laptop, swap it out, and load XP. If you don't see a performance boost, swap in your original drive, purchase a USB enclosure for the new drive, and use it for backups.

Personally, I haven't thrown out a HD in years. I just put them in enclosures, and use them for permanent file storage. Sure beats burning CDs & DVDs.
That's a great idea, will do that. Gives me a chance to try out a faster drive as well. Is anyone using vista with SP2? Any improvement on the latency?
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Re: How is Live 8 with vista 32bit?

Post by andy c » Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:27 am

Have you tried switching off the ACPI Battery Compliant driver in device manager? This solved a lot of regular DPC spikes for me, still not as good as my old XP machine but usable. All you really loose is the feedback to the battery state and the low bat warnings, a pain when running off batteries but from the mains make no difference at all. For me windows 7 was like this as well with the ACPI driver off I got a nice low (ish) DPC of 100-120 still higher than the old machine but low enough not to be a issue at all, which for me was about as good as it gets.

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Re: How is Live 8 with vista 32bit?

Post by chapelier fou » Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:46 am

You can download the service packs and install them manually. It's SP2 for vista, not 3. Getting mixed up with XP. I was kinda surprised that my bios was so out of date but updating it does seem to be giving me a more stable able-ton. :)
Downloading SP2 right now. Should I care for other updates? I don't know what's on my computer, since it is not connected to the web. I don't even know if I have SP1 or SP2.
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Re: How is Live 8 with vista 32bit?

Post by chapelier fou » Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:01 am

Should I make backups before, or is it riskless?
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Re: How is Live 8 with vista 32bit?

Post by chapelier fou » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:15 am

Bump, before breaking my computer and losing my work.
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Re: How is Live 8 with vista 32bit?

Post by adventurepants_ » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:30 am

The choices for Operating Systems on PCs for DAW software is XP SP3, and Win 7.

Thats it. Vista is not worth the trouble as a DAW and never has been since its release, its fundamentally broken. Theres a reason why my work and thousands of other organisations decided to skip Vista, after much testing and benchmarking. Even though Vista and 7 share a lot of code, the kernel for 7 is different, and much better optimised.

If you want to tinker with your PC and update drivers as they slowly improve for Win 7 then go for it. If you want a rock solid workstation to get shit done on right now and not have to spend any time messing with it, go XP. If your machine is older than a year old ie isnt at least a 2.5 Duo 2 with 4gb ram, put XP on it. You can get XP drivers for all Dell laptops.

Chapelier, always make backups. always. Did i mention to always make backups? If youve only got one copy of something, it may as well not exist, and you can assume you will lose it.
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Re: How is Live 8 with vista 32bit?

Post by chapelier fou » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:09 pm

SP2 installed. Still the same.
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Re: How is Live 8 with vista 32bit?

Post by musicmachine » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:03 pm

chapelier fou wrote:
You can download the service packs and install them manually. It's SP2 for vista, not 3. Getting mixed up with XP. I was kinda surprised that my bios was so out of date but updating it does seem to be giving me a more stable able-ton. :)
Downloading SP2 right now. Should I care for other updates? I don't know what's on my computer, since it is not connected to the web. I don't even know if I have SP1 or SP2.
Oops sorry chapelier fou, i forgot to reply! Been exploring the depths of my blofeld and completely lost track. Only SP i installed was SP3 for XP and that was fine. I think service packs are one of the safest things from ms you can install as they fix all the broken shit! :lol:
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Re: How is Live 8 with vista 32bit?

Post by musicmachine » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:53 pm

adventurepants_ wrote:The choices for Operating Systems on PCs for DAW software is XP SP3, and Win 7.

Thats it. Vista is not worth the trouble as a DAW and never has been since its release, its fundamentally broken. Theres a reason why my work and thousands of other organisations decided to skip Vista, after much testing and benchmarking. Even though Vista and 7 share a lot of code, the kernel for 7 is different, and much better optimised.

If you want to tinker with your PC and update drivers as they slowly improve for Win 7 then go for it. If you want a rock solid workstation to get shit done on right now and not have to spend any time messing with it, go XP. If your machine is older than a year old ie isnt at least a 2.5 Duo 2 with 4gb ram, put XP on it. You can get XP drivers for all Dell laptops.

Chapelier, always make backups. always. Did i mention to always make backups? If youve only got one copy of something, it may as well not exist, and you can assume you will lose it.
What he said about backups. If i'm making any major changes to my OS i always backup before hand. I keep my audio related stuff on it's own partition anyway so if the OS gets messed up i can just reinstall. Still backup anyway in case of hd failure. :)

Re 7, Live 8 is now running pretty well. My machine is a little underspecced for windows 7 ultimate and i may end up putting XP on as it's much lighter on resources. I'll pick up a drive soon and a copy of XP but 7 is solid apart from problems i've had with Live. Strangely enough, i 've had the same probs on three different systems with Live. That's why i'm reluctant about switching to XP but the seperate drive is the way to go. Now i can take my time with it as L8 is stable... 8)
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