Automatically trigger scene

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kingb
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Automatically trigger scene

Post by kingb » Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:44 pm

What I'm trying to do is setup song parts and avoid having to trigger scenes while performing. So, say I have an 8 bar clip playing on one scene. Is there a way to trigger a new scene automatically at the end of that clip?

plemm
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Re: Automatically trigger scene

Post by plemm » Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:17 pm

The best option for me is as follows.
Create a midiclip from the desired length with in the last beat a midimessage that will start a given scene thru mid-automation. Of cause you have to route this clip to a remotecontrol enabled device (could be fi. the IAC-driver on a MAC).
In my library I prepared different clips with different length (1, 2, 4, 8, 12, 16 bars) that will trigger scene 1, 2, 3 etc. Just grab a clip and put it on a "Control" midi track and the job is done, easily edited, and working.

Hope this helps.


Peter

longjohns
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Re: Automatically trigger scene

Post by longjohns » Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:26 pm

you can also put a follow action on all clips in that scene.

kingb
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Re: Automatically trigger scene

Post by kingb » Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:53 pm

Thanks for your replies.

I like both approaches - but I think the midi-clip version will work better for my purposes because I'm looking to jump a whole scene which has about 12 different tracks. So I can see programming all the different follow actions would get a bit tedious.

But - I really like the concept of the follow action and can see that setting up some nice build parts - where one scene will morph over time pulling clips from adjacent scenes. Great stuff - Thanks!

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Re: Automatically trigger scene

Post by longjohns » Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:31 pm

kingb wrote: I like both approaches - but I think the midi-clip version will work better for my purposes because I'm looking to jump a whole scene which has about 12 different tracks. So I can see programming all the different follow actions would get a bit tedious.

But - I really like the concept of the follow action and can see that setting up some nice build parts - where one scene will morph over time pulling clips from adjacent scenes. Great stuff - Thanks!
if you mean 'jump' as in skip a scene, then follow actions won't help (unless you happen to be moving from 1 to 3 in a group of 3 scenes, hehe)

also you can set them en masse by multi-selecting clips

jake noise
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Re: Automatically trigger scene

Post by jake noise » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:30 pm

The main benefit of using the midi clip method is that it works when you don't have clips on all tracks, ie scene 1 has clips on tracks 1 2 3 and 4 while scene 2 has clips on tracks 4 5 and 6. However you can get round this with place holder clips that are empty and serve solely to trigger a follow action. To be fair both are valid work arounds, although scene follow actions would be nice...
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plemm
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Re: Automatically trigger scene

Post by plemm » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:02 pm

Of cause anybody will agree on the follow action for scenes. (As has been said often already. Can't be else then happening next update (?)...)


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