Fuck it is hard to choose! Apc or ohm64 (Ending up with ohm)

[Tone Deft]

thanks for clarifying that.

[Grappadura]

I would go for the Ohm over the apc40, but they do different things.

Why? Don´t you have to map the buttons for every single project?

[kristoffer1989]

I would go for the Ohm over the apc40, but they do different things.

Why? Don´t you have to map the buttons for every single project?

+1 that is one of the things making me think the apc is cool...

[elementv]

yeah the handshake rules, but ohm 64 is a made in the usa product and feels much better then the apc, great faders and knobs and really nice finish, not cheap plastic like the apc. What i do is make a project then save it. I also like the fact that the ohm is more open, i can change the presets, midi mapping, make the led's do more by sending midi messages, and I use it with other software, not just live. apc sucks when using it with module8 or tracktor, so it works better in our setup. I also bought mine unfinished and put my own stain on it, something very cool for diy like me.

[kristoffer1989]

maybe it will be possible to make max patch that will map the pads to the session view clipss...

bah, now im back to ohm 64 again. after having a bandrehearsal. I'm back to start...

[sacredgeometry]

I would go for the Ohm over the apc40, but they do different things.

Why? Don´t you have to map the buttons for every single project?

+1 that is one of the things making me think the apc is cool...

i know its not the same but you could just make a default template for ableton and allways use it to avoid having to set it up every time ......i got bored of working like this and at least for me the apoc was an easy desicion, i mean what does the ohm have that the apc doesnt really? when you think that max for live will cover control over everything that the apc can do....so apart from the 8x8 grid what is the ohms appeal for everyone?

peace

brian

[Lazos]

maybe it will be possible to make max patch that will map the pads to the session view clipss...

bah, now im back to ohm 64 again. after having a bandrehearsal. I'm back to start...

I don't think you'd need a max patch at all. They just map manually in midi map mode in Live, right?. I've been debating this question lately too. It looks like the Ohm64 is built a bit more solid than the APC, also comes with the VJ software. But the crossfader is kinda in the way of the bottom row of buttons

[S4racen]

You can use bomes to set up a second third fourth etc scene that is in addition to the red box controls, i've og tmine so that on a second scene i have got three state switches so that the crossfader when mapped can be quickly changed on the fly...

There is literally no end to what you can do with the APC if you give it a little time!

Cheers
D

[ashtonron]

how is the lights on the apc? is it very hard to see in sunlight? i might have some outdoor gigs..

If you are in Oslo you can pop in to multima or filter i think they have an apc you can try out.

[elementv]

the controls on my ohm 64 are way better feeling then my apc. I also like the fact that it is made with local and ethically sourced parts in the us, not many companies left are doing this besides monome. i would rather support a small company doing cool things then a large corporation making things cheap in china. the fader is not in the way for me, but i use it a lot so it is usually on one side or the other. i do wish the leds could change color but i will trade usb power for that. there are a bunch of open source max patches available for it, and the midi mappings are editable so if you want to use it with something other then live it is perfect. i also would rather perform with this then the apc because it looks and feels a lot better, but the apc does have some nice features.

[kristoffer1989]

how is the lights on the apc? is it very hard to see in sunlight? i might have some outdoor gigs..

If you are in Oslo you can pop in to multima or filter i think they have an apc you can try out.

Yeah multima is my closest neigbor so i have been in there and had a little look at it. Looks pretty sexy. Just wish i could have tried the ohm64 to..

Are you playing any gigs in oslo? what kind of music ? Artist name?

[elementv]

just found out this http://www.lividindustry.com/culture/?p=428 and open source fm synth max patch for the 64. this is what i am talking about!

[ashtonron]

Are you playing any gigs in oslo? what kind of music ? Artist name?

Its been a while, was known as DJ Tza used to DJ drum and bass at kilyerego as one of the nausea guys.. decided to become ashton ron digital dj, but still not decided where I want to go with it really... just enjoying making tunes at the mo...

[kristoffer1989]

allright looks like im ending up with the ohm after all. Will have to figure out a max for live patch or something that automaps the pads for me. ive also got a couple of tricks planned out.


what kind of max patches are there for the ohm?

[elementv]

some stuff here http://www.lividindustry.com/culture/?tag=maxmsp

it also seems that cell dna is a max patch. the midi editor is also a max patch and the soource code is open source.