Session Drums, does anyone understand them?

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Re: Session Drums, does anyone understand them?

Post by Jekblad » Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:52 pm

nice one angstrom, you described it perectly. 12 points to you.
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Re: Session Drums, does anyone understand them?

Post by alex.the.forge » Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:53 am

Angstrom wrote:So, in just 36 simple steps you can get the factory preset to work correctly.
double plus ungood

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Re: Session Drums, does anyone understand them?

Post by longjohns » Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:39 am

Angstrom wrote:hmm, yes nearly, but I can only give you 5 points there.

anyone else from the opposing team?

OK, here's the full answer. To get the drumrack preset hihats to choke here's what you do:
  1. you must understand that you must press the IO on the parent drumrack so you can see the notes(if they aren't currently shown)
  2. now open up one of the problematic subracks and press the marble button that looks like 3 horizontal lines
  3. press the IO button for the now visible subchain list
  4. make a note of the first note name you see. In this case it's A#1
  5. go to the parent and set the hi-at chain incoming note (with the worlds largest pulldown) to A#1
  6. go back to the sub rack and set the incoming note (with the worlds largest pulldown) to 'all notes'
  7. set the parent choke group to 1, no that it is selectable
I am now claiming 20 points, because while my answer was admittedly more vague, it is at the same time more accurate. actually I will also claim 5 additional points for bumping your thread and getting some audience, as it previously had no replies .

so 25 points for me!!! yay!
longjohns wrote:to get them all to choke, you have to set specific notes in the top rack, and change the input note in the inner racks
100% true. (but vague)

it is not necessary to set the top-level chain input to any one note. i.e. you don't have to set it to A#1. just ANYTHING EXCEPT "ALL", and presumably, to keep it playable - something other than what other samples are set to.

the inner rack which it plays can be set to 'all'
or C3 (assuming you haven't changed the output note of the top-level chain)
or whatever (if you change the output note of the top-level chain)

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Re: Session Drums, does anyone understand them?

Post by longjohns » Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:54 am

deffo need to do something about those pull-downs

respond to midi input

some time-threshold of multiple notes to = "all"

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Re: Session Drums, does anyone understand them?

Post by Schuft » Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:45 am

it would be very interesting what procedure Ableton officially recommends for this.

the hotswap isn't working properly (at least for SD or LP). the manual misses detailed information and examples on how to build your own drum kit (e.g. with SessionDrums or LatinPercussion).

so Ableton, what do you recommend in this case ?
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Re: Session Drums, does anyone understand them?

Post by jpc » Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:52 am

Ugg .. Drum racks has been this months Live frustration .. All in all , together with not being able to duplicate groups forward in arrange and everything else i'm close to leaving ..

The one thing i found a bit easier was to work in Drum racks in Session view and work with it as Mixer channels . At least this way it seems a little coherent and recognizable . and not like your reading a Space Shuttle Orbital Re-entry synopsis .



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Re: Session Drums, does anyone understand them?

Post by Surreal » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:22 pm

is there a way to know which chain takes precedence in a choke group?

i want my open high hats to 'win' in all cases, but i can't figure out what to do to achieve that.

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