Why does it sound worse after i render a song?

[Ki113rP3nquin]

I've been trying to fix it.
But it doesn't sound the same after I render it, it sounds like all the lows are almost all gone.
WTF
help please.

Here is my render thing.

[SpookyCLombardo]

Hey man, I had the same problem for a while. I fixed it by using some different render settings.
For example changing from 16 to 24bit helps as well as boosting the sample rate up to 48000, and then you have a higher quality source to work with when you bounce it to MP3 or whatever use satisfies you.

[Ki113rP3nquin]

Hey man, I had the same problem for a while. I fixed it by using some different render settings.
For example changing from 16 to 24bit helps as well as boosting the sample rate up to 48000, and then you have a higher quality source to work with when you bounce it to MP3 or whatever use satisfies you.

Thank you, I will try it.

[Atardecer]

Hey man, I had the same problem for a while. I fixed it by using some different render settings.
For example changing from 16 to 24bit helps as well as boosting the sample rate up to 48000, and then you have a higher quality source to work with when you bounce it to MP3 or whatever use satisfies you.

Sorry man but that is completely untrue. If you're project is at 44.1k originally, and especially if you're using 44.1k samples, there is no benefit to be had by upsampling to 48k. You cannot improve quality by doing this. In fact if anything it makes it worse. 48k should really only be used if youre working in the film world as that is typically the sample rate that audio is captured at on video cameras. Its best to work at a sample rate that is the same or at least direct multiples of what your target end format runs at (ie. doing a CD, work at 44.1 or even better, 88.2k). Converting from 44.1k to 48k involves messy, complicated mathematics and can result in unpleasant artifacts.

Jim

[Sage]

If you aren't using a sample rate higher that 44.1kHz, then no need to dither whatsoever. If it is at a higher rate, then try the different dithering types.

Also make sure your tracks aren't clipping, as Live doesn't distort straight at 0.00dB.

[zalo]

If you aren't using a sample rate higher that 44.1kHz, then no need to dither whatsoever. If it is at a higher rate, then try the different dithering types.

Also make sure your tracks aren't clipping, as Live doesn't distort straight at 0.00dB.

dithering is about minimizing digital error when reducing file resolution, and seems to make more of a difference between bitdepth than sample rate, meaning reducing a files sample rate creates less errors than reducing a files bitdepth

anyway unless you are about to burn an audio cd, render it at the same sample rate you have set in preferences and at 32bit

since i assume you arent going to distribute the aif/wav file around the internet, this gives you the best file to start with before converting to mp3

also dont use the pow settings, they are actually audible dithering, triangle should work better, or use dithering from a plugin

[michaellpenman]

Of course you can bounce out at 48k and 24bit and this is not upsampling because you are not converting audio your bouncing.
Also dont dither if you havent mastered, you only want to dither and normalize once.

[Atardecer]

Of course you can bounce out at 48k and 24bit and this is not upsampling because you are not converting audio your bouncing.
Also dont dither if you havent mastered, you only want to dither and normalize once.

Yes, but unless your end target is going to be 48k (ie. film/tv) what is the point? You lose any perceived "benefit" by doing the messy conversion back to 44.1k.

[H20nly]

What are you listening to your freshly rendered track with?
I expect things to sound different after an export. I'm still trying to triage between my DAW, $10.00 crap speakers on my internet PC, and the CD player in my car. Each one picks up something or doesn't pick up something. The quest for the happiest medium has become quite an epic journey... well at least an arduous one...