anyone know how to re-create this weird Royksopp sound?

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anyone know how to re-create this weird Royksopp sound?

Post by dentaku » Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:57 pm

Does anyone know how to make that strange ever-evolving sound in Royksopp - Vision One
It starts at 44 sec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnPZmSDPQEo

It sounds like a short percussive sound looped extremely quickly (move the right loop point to the left on any tiny sample and this will happen) so it creates a low noise and then ran through a slowly moving formant filter or something like that.
In fact, at 1:47 it slows down until it's just a little "blip" then it starts up again.

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Re: anyone know how to re-create this weird Royksopp sound?

Post by Fantismo » Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:26 pm

yes it does sound like a formant filter.. i am interested to hear the answer though....

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Re: anyone know how to re-create this weird Royksopp sound?

Post by dentaku » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:59 am

I've got more ideas now so I might try it out again tomorrow.

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Re: anyone know how to re-create this weird Royksopp sound?

Post by djgroovy » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:58 pm

If you search around on kvr, i remember there was a thread about this same sound, with a lot of replies some time ago.

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Re: anyone know how to re-create this weird Royksopp sound?

Post by dentaku » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:47 pm

djgroovy wrote:If you search around on kvr, i remember there was a thread about this same sound, with a lot of replies some time ago.
Wow, you're right. there's been lots of talk about it. Someone got close with a saw wave 2 formants and a bit crusher.
I also learned that the Vision One base line is inspired by Stevie Wonder - Too High.

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Re: anyone know how to re-create this weird Royksopp sound?

Post by zalo » Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:14 pm

reminds me of like FXpansion Orca with some formant filters

it also sounds like a saw and a square mix with a filter env that opens quickly and then moving formant filters

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Re: anyone know how to re-create this weird Royksopp sound?

Post by Ism » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:01 pm

In the past I’ve created similar-ish sounds by vocoding two Malstrom synths together in Reason using saw wave based patches on both.

Try experimenting with this (obviously doesn’t have to be in Reason), you may not get the exact sound your after but I’ve found this a really good way to get some fat and interesting synths sounds.
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Re: anyone know how to re-create this weird Royksopp sound?

Post by dentaku » Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:49 pm

Maelstrom can do some weird stuff. It even has a formantsaw built right into it.
Can you explain how you routed the devices in Reason to do this?
Ism wrote:In the past I’ve created similar-ish sounds by vocoding two Malstrom synths together in Reason using saw wave based patches on both.

Try experimenting with this (obviously doesn’t have to be in Reason), you may not get the exact sound your after but I’ve found this a really good way to get some fat and interesting synths sounds.

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Re: anyone know how to re-create this weird Royksopp sound?

Post by dentaku » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:18 pm

Just to continue this further there's a free VST called s3k that makes sounds very similar to this.
http://krakli.com/krakli-free-synths/

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Re: anyone know how to re-create this weird Royksopp sound?

Post by Fantismo » Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:27 pm

Hi

Can anyone answer this question from a sound engineers point of view?

I like building my synths from scratch and really UNDERSTANDING why things happen.

Come on.. theres some intelligent fellows out there.. !! :-)

(not me..)

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Re: anyone know how to re-create this weird Royksopp sound?

Post by nbinder » Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:49 pm

dentaku wrote:
djgroovy wrote:If you search around on kvr, i remember there was a thread about this same sound, with a lot of replies some time ago.
Wow, you're right. there's been lots of talk about it. Someone got close with a saw wave 2 formants and a bit crusher.
I also learned that the Vision One base line is inspired by Stevie Wonder - Too High.
Exactly. I used nearly the same sound long time ago and created it 100% in Live. Too bad it is on my old PC, but I clearly remember that I was using Redux and automated the amount.... and I used a filter with resonance, also automated.
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Re: anyone know how to re-create this weird Royksopp sound?

Post by djgroovy » Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:51 pm

Fantismo wrote:Hi

Can anyone answer this question from a sound engineers point of view?

I like building my synths from scratch and really UNDERSTANDING why things happen.

Come on.. theres some intelligent fellows out there.. !! :-)

(not me..)
again, i direct you to kvr forum, lot's of people with advice

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Re: anyone know how to re-create this weird Royksopp sound?

Post by dentaku » Sat Aug 22, 2009 2:38 am

I was messing with the S3K wooden preset http://krakli.com/krakli-free-synths/ and found that if you add a vocoder with the Oct-Six Mod, set it to 8 bands and turn the formant knob it starts sounding even more Rosksopp-ish.

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Re: anyone know how to re-create this weird Royksopp sound?

Post by Blankman8503 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:30 pm

You could also look into what sounds and parameters the hardware synths they play offer. I know they use harware Korgs as well as some other stuff. Could give you a decent look on how they could create the sound using their equipment.
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Re: anyone know how to re-create this weird Royksopp sound?

Post by dentaku » Sat Feb 06, 2010 2:49 am

They use KORG MS20s allot so there's a good chance the sound originates from there then it's probably enhanced with real bass and maybe even a hardware vocoder.
Blankman8503 wrote:You could also look into what sounds and parameters the hardware synths they play offer. I know they use harware Korgs as well as some other stuff. Could give you a decent look on how they could create the sound using their equipment.

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