IMPROVED! padKONTROL step sequencer, made in live 7 for OS X

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Re: IMPROVED! padKONTROL step sequencer, made in live 7 for OS X

Post by doc holiday » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:08 am

condra wrote:I'm way too stupid for this. The terminal thing seemed to work.
getting farmpad to load the config file is the hardest part, if you got that the rest should be cake.

you should see farmpad in prefs if it is running, otherwise you won't be able to use it.

when it loaded that config could you switch the scenes? this works just like the standard pk changes scenes except there are four scene groups to take advantage of 64 scenes.

the scenes are A01 - A16 B01-B16, also C and D the lcd should display this.

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Re: IMPROVED! padKONTROL step sequencer, made in live 7 for OS X

Post by condra » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:10 am

Farmpad v1.3.1
Live 8
OSX

IAC enabled.

Everything looks just like your screenshot only Farmpad aint coming up in Lives prefs.

I would test it on Live 7 only it has decided yet again that I'm a criminal, and has refused to work.
My PadKontrol has also decided to stop indicating scenes with the scene button. Technology is not really happening for me right now.

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Re: IMPROVED! padKONTROL step sequencer, made in live 7 for OS X

Post by doc holiday » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:50 pm

it works in 8, i'm on it. farmpad 1.3.1 check.

something is up on your end, you can't use farmpad if it doesn't show up in preferences.

you should be able to turn farmpad off and on and have it go away and come back again in prefs.

are you sure your PK is taking farmpad?

do the pads on the pK stay lit when you hit them?

it sounds like farmpad isn't actually loading on your pK

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Re: IMPROVED! padKONTROL step sequencer, made in live 7 for OS X

Post by condra » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:37 pm

Yep the pads stay lit, Farmpad seems to be working with the PK, just not with Live.

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Re: IMPROVED! padKONTROL step sequencer, made in live 7 for OS X

Post by doc holiday » Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:50 pm

thats odd, the mac should see the PK as farmpad and make it available in live.
try a different USB port maybe? do you have the pK plugged in or a powered hub?
something isn't right I haven't heard of farmpad not working.
farmpad is a huge improvement for the pK you really want it to work, i would hate my pK without it.

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Re: IMPROVED! padKONTROL step sequencer, made in live 7 for OS X

Post by muckleberryblim » Fri May 01, 2009 2:57 pm

this looks amazing.
is it possible to
a: send midi out from PK controlled racks to external hardware?
b: use groove control on the patterns?
if so you might have just made the sickest tool i have ever seen.

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Re: IMPROVED! padKONTROL step sequencer, made in live 7 for OS X

Post by doc holiday » Fri May 01, 2009 10:32 pm

muckleberryblim wrote:this looks amazing.
is it possible to
a: send midi out from PK controlled racks to external hardware?
b: use groove control on the patterns?
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a.) never tried it, but yeah it will work, you may have to find the correct pitch plug to change the notes sent to the hardware.

basically the 16 steps are always being sent by live, and the PK pads work as gates, if the pad is lit the note will pass at that step.

b.)yes and no, depends how much groove, groove can move the notes out of alignment and they miss the gate.
instead of getting the swing the note can be missed.

there really is a ton of shit you can do with it.

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Re: IMPROVED! padKONTROL step sequencer, made in live 7 for OS X

Post by RavenMoon » Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:01 pm

I've only gotten as far as step sequencing the Kick Drum on the demo project "FarmShareSeq4bar.als"
How do I use the padkontrol to select other hits on the impulse and then step sequence them?

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Re: IMPROVED! padKONTROL step sequencer, made in live 7 for OS X

Post by RavenMoon » Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:23 am

alright I reloaded the new download and FP_StepSeq.txt . Its working now. But Now I how do I program a tighter Roll in 32nd notes?

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Re: IMPROVED! padKONTROL step sequencer, made in live 7 for OS X

Post by doc holiday » Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:24 pm

sorry i missed this. i've been working my arse off this summer.
you can get 32nds or 8ths by changing the midi clip with the :2 and 2: options. like time stretching.

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Re: IMPROVED! padKONTROL step sequencer, made in live 7 for OS X

Post by robbiePie » Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:47 am

doc, thanks for putting this together and helping us kooks out with the set up. Thanks to everyone who has helped with bringing the unknowing up to speed.

The included instructions have got my padkontrol working with farmpad, configuring the IAC, setting up midi prefs... all good there.

Upon loading the example set farmShareSeq4bars.als I get a message that the audio samples cannot be found (I started Live from clicking the .als file within the farmPadStepSeq directory, maybe thats why?). I mapped the samples that could not be found (all of em) to other samples live had.

I moved the midi notes in the clips so that they falls on the kick drum.

I have been pushing many many buttons, and it seems I can get the kick drum to go, though I dont know how... and Im kinda lost on how to get other sounds going.

@RavenMoon - how did you get it to have more sounds? Why did you need to redownload and re load?

Iv been trying to go off of the post that stated:
... i use velocity to make the notes increment through the steps.

the vertical row with some on and some off is the row you assign the pads to.

make the eight rows all hit the kick drum in impulse, then add a pitch plug to seven of the tracks to increment up to the other sample cells.

once you get the kick hitting, make a preset of the rack and load it into the others.


This is my first foray into step sequencer fun... and consequently have many questions about how to get this wizardry happening. Could anyone elaborate a bit on the steps mentioned above? What exactly are 'follow actions?' Can you clarify what you mean by 'vertical row'?

For the 'select bar to edit' buttons, I can hold one down and select up to 16 for each. I can make all the buttons light on or off. So then each scene is a 16th note in time? What do the rows/columns on the padkontrol represent?

Here is what Live looks like for me, in case someone can see something off...
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Can anyone recommend some good resources for learning more? Youtube has been pretty meager, besides showing what I would like to be able to do with little explanation...

Thanks for a great mod and thanks for all the help

-robbie

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Re: IMPROVED! padKONTROL step sequencer, made in live 7 for OS X

Post by robbiePie » Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:40 pm

Ok, I figured out by reloading the original set and doing nothing other than setting the samples that it works for me as is (sorry...). I had messed something up by putting an impulse on track one... yeah.

But my god! the fun we are all having here now! :D thanks again!

-robbie

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Re: IMPROVED! padKONTROL step sequencer, made in live 7 for OS X

Post by doc holiday » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:54 pm

nice!! I'm glad you got it running.

you can use whatever impulse presets you like. i loaded it up with default presets so it would work for everyone.
I have a set set up to run a 16 sound drum rack but it's CPU heavy. If I remember I'll upload that one sometime soon.

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Re: IMPROVED! padKONTROL step sequencer, made in live 7 for OS X

Post by chivaros » Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:42 pm

Hi There,
I realise this is quite an old post now - just tried downloading and unzipping but it just seems to keep unzipping more zip files!
Is it possible to get a copy of this again?
Cheers!

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