Whine from monitors when Live is open?

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Re: Whine from monitors when Live is open?

Post by UKRuss » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:23 am

DorphonDalfir wrote:Still there when all plugged into the same socket, actually even more apparent. :/

Gonna go for the ground isolator route before I end up in hospital.
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Re: Whine from monitors when Live is open?

Post by dom » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:24 am

crumhorn wrote: The only solutions are balanced connections, ground loop isolating transformers, or disconnecting the earth pin on the speaker power cable or the monitor (at your own risk!).
Spot on. But you might want to add that the "at your own risk" disclaimer is not the "you're losing your guarantee" kind of thing but really more of a "if there's a short circuit somewhere, your equipment will actually toast you".
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Re: Whine from monitors when Live is open?

Post by crumhorn » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:32 am

dom wrote:
crumhorn wrote: The only solutions are balanced connections, ground loop isolating transformers, or disconnecting the earth pin on the speaker power cable or the monitor (at your own risk!).
Spot on. But you might want to add that the "at your own risk" disclaimer is not the "you're losing your guarantee" kind of thing but really more of a "if there's a short circuit somewhere, your equipment will actually toast you".
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Re: Whine from monitors when Live is open?

Post by Martyn » Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:13 pm

I have a similar problem with my setup, I have powered monitors too. It's happening because the monitors are always amplifying any signal in their inputs at maximum so any RF signal is always getting magnified.
I also get it when I have a browser open and it's streaming flash or displaying a white webpage. I've traced it to interference from the Graphics card when it's processing, and yes, balanced leads will sort it out. I recently changed my monitor to one with a digital connection and the problem lessened to a bearable level but the real solution is a better soundcard with proper balanced connections. I've yet to buy a new one but it's definitely next on my purchase list.

Good luck with it, it drove me nuts for ages until I figured it out.

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Re: Whine from monitors when Live is open?

Post by H20nly » Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:19 pm

8O scary

make sure and let us know that you're not toast. if we don't hear back from you that uber cool sounding gf of yours is gonna be fair game... after a brief grieving period of course.. :wink:

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Re: Whine from monitors when Live is open?

Post by DorphonDalfir » Thu Sep 10, 2009 8:16 am

Hehe, will give an update. Heading off to Israel this weekend for a fortnight, so will try sort it out when I get back.

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Re: Whine from monitors when Live is open?

Post by ethios4 » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:39 pm

+1 balanced cables.

Could properly grounded electrical outlets also solve this problem?

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