Video Graphics...

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
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Re: Video Graphics...

Post by JuanSOLO » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:38 pm

bosonHavoc wrote:great work..

the "the cliff notes" is great.. you have had a pretty intense life.. kind of like mine but a bit different.

hats off to you bro

Thanks. Thats a dated vid, still entertaining, but a long way off with that F'n little Mac Laptop running Live 5, in Abilene for crying out loud!!! That place was a musical deadzone!

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Re: Video Graphics...

Post by Zenda » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:44 pm

I'm also foolin around with some visual audio integration possibilities

http://www.vimeo.com/6720386

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Re: Video Graphics...

Post by nebulae » Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:53 pm

I'm nebulae.

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Re: Video Graphics...

Post by formatk » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:05 pm

I'm currently working with Isadora and after effects, shooting on digital stills. Just finished animating 2manyDj's tour visuals and going to be touring for the first time next month performing interactive visuals for a group I can't say yet. I've been looking into what VJ software works well for guys used to after effects and ableton. I'm just demo'ing Modul8 and VDMX but they look quite basic. I want to be able to capture and loop video feeds and mix them back into a live feed. Maybe I'll have to build something in Isadora.
Check this out btw, it's a previz for an installation I'm going to do wiring lamps into an arduino/Lanbox DMX set up.

http://vimeo.com/4490804
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Re: Video Graphics...

Post by JuanSOLO » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:23 pm

formatk wrote:I'm currently working with Isadora and after effects, shooting on digital stills. Just finished animating 2manyDj's tour visuals and going to be touring for the first time next month performing interactive visuals for a group I can't say yet. I've been looking into what VJ software works well for guys used to after effects and ableton. I'm just demo'ing Modul8 and VDMX but they look quite basic. I want to be able to capture and loop video feeds and mix them back into a live feed. Maybe I'll have to build something in Isadora.
Check this out btw, it's a previz for an installation I'm going to do wiring lamps into an arduino/Lanbox DMX set up.

http://vimeo.com/4490804
I'm by no means an expert in VJ software, but some of the Jitter stuff I've seen is AMAZING. Quite a learning curve, but with MAX for live coming out I would hope that the ability to make or acquire Ableton Video FX will be as cool as expected. If I understand correctly you can do almost anything you could concieve/build in Jitter, and activate parameters from Live. With MAX4Live you should be able to build in Live and use them as plugs in Live. WAY out FRESH YO!

One guy has a vid posted on YouTube with the Jitter app and Ableton that retrieves "RED" in his Laptop camera and the amount of Red is altering a filters frequency on a drum track. I've seen similar stuff being done with some performance art. This video here is off the WALL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS1WALmBqUw. They are using some infared camera technology to realtime activate the visuals from body movement. I'm not much into modern dance but this video is AMAZING. There are lots of possibilities for live audio and video stuff. Ableton partnering with the MAX folks could be big stuff for the future of music. I think the coke can video is just a hint of the possibilities. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f_b5vToD-s

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Re: Video Graphics...

Post by stonee » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:52 pm

JuanSOLO wrote:
formatk wrote:I'm currently working with Isadora and after effects, shooting on digital stills. Just finished animating 2manyDj's tour visuals and going to be touring for the first time next month performing interactive visuals for a group I can't say yet. I've been looking into what VJ software works well for guys used to after effects and ableton. I'm just demo'ing Modul8 and VDMX but they look quite basic. I want to be able to capture and loop video feeds and mix them back into a live feed. Maybe I'll have to build something in Isadora.
Check this out btw, it's a previz for an installation I'm going to do wiring lamps into an arduino/Lanbox DMX set up.

http://vimeo.com/4490804
I'm by no means an expert in VJ software, but some of the Jitter stuff I've seen is AMAZING. Quite a learning curve, but with MAX for live coming out I would hope that the ability to make or acquire Ableton Video FX will be as cool as expected. If I understand correctly you can do almost anything you could concieve/build in Jitter, and activate parameters from Live. With MAX4Live you should be able to build in Live and use them as plugs in Live. WAY out FRESH YO!

One guy has a vid posted on YouTube with the Jitter app and Ableton that retrieves "RED" in his Laptop camera and the amount of Red is altering a filters frequency on a drum track. I've seen similar stuff being done with some performance art. This video here is off the WALL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS1WALmBqUw. They are using some infared camera technology to realtime activate the visuals from body movement. I'm not much into modern dance but this video is AMAZING. There are lots of possibilities for live audio and video stuff. Ableton partnering with the MAX folks could be big stuff for the future of music. I think the coke can video is just a hint of the possibilities. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f_b5vToD-s


soooooo.... are you saying that with M4L, ableton could become capable of VJing?

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Re: Video Graphics...

Post by Tone Deft » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:58 pm

stonee wrote:soooooo.... are you saying that with M4L, ableton could become capable of VJing?
the first hurdle is that Live only handles video in arrange view. a workaround could be to keep all the video in jitter objects and use session view to send commands to max4Live. maybe.

but if that's the case you could be doing that today.
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Re: Video Graphics...

Post by stonee » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:18 pm

Tone Deft wrote:
stonee wrote:soooooo.... are you saying that with M4L, ableton could become capable of VJing?
the first hurdle is that Live only handles video in arrange view. a workaround could be to keep all the video in jitter objects and use session view to send commands to max4Live. maybe.

but if that's the case you could be doing that today.
idealy here's the basics i'd be looking for, pretty simple (I think)

2 channels of video, preferably quartz support, and some effects.

Could you get around the video thing by having clips sit in a bank in the patch and toggled by midi?

or maybe use it to make a wrapper for clips... a plug which you can just drop a video in, assign effects n such...

I suppose by that point you might as well just be sending midi from ableton to any VJ program...

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Re: Video Graphics...

Post by JuanSOLO » Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:54 pm

soooooo.... are you saying that with M4L, ableton could become capable of VJing?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3DFtvIzKjg

This guys seems to have a clue for sure!

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