yes they are, i only wanted to point out, that in a club situation they are bloody space wasters for a performance setup that does not require 1210sHidden Driveways wrote:1210's are prettySubFunk wrote:i mean 1210s are still everywhere in any DJ booth and if you do not use them, they are space wasters! ugly space wasters!
GAFM ***You said you were not going to buy more kit......vblog Episode 1UKRuss wrote:Yep, just ordere mine through DV247 at 149.99. Tidy work novation people!
i am talking about the unbelievable situation that a company can't engineer / design properly anymore.put a roll of sellotape underneath, FFS.
GAFM ***
One of the many reasons I have , for the most part, abandoned my Pro Tools HD rig and now do about 80% of my production in Live is for the very reason you describe. I can walk around my house with my laptop and create stuff on the fly - no dongles or expensive hardware required. I can even key in parts with the qwerty keyboard whilst riding on the train!telekom wrote:I have to say it looks underwhelming. I can press buttons on my laptop keyboard (I'm doing it right now in fact), OK they don't light up but maybe I'm not that keen on science fiction.
But lots of you seem happy about this new device, good stuff, I hope you enjoy using it and more importantly, use it well.
But I'm sorry... to all you people who complain of devices not having a hole in the bottom so you can sit it on a turntable... put a roll of sellotape underneath, FFS.
+1Poster wrote:wow..
finally an affordable monome.. bout time..
IP wrote:im sooooooooooo WET!
and im feeling very lucky!
nocturn keyboard announced the day i was ready to order a mpk
Launchpad announced the day i was ready to order an apc!
saving €440 (from both controllers).. for the next DJ controller for serato4live or something lol
Im very happy that finally i didnt supported a company with a $1 = €1 pricing policy!!
Another big + is that now with this new collaboration live may offer better support for novation products
Like what happened with akai
no shit, really?djsynchro wrote:A big thank you to Akai!
For not having any in the shops in Holland.
I couldn't respectfully disagree with you more, there is a feeling you get when you sit down at a piano that you cannot get from sitting in front of an mpc and both of those feelings are very different from how it feels to be in front of a monome. same with a pair of turntables and a pair of cd decks ...... the interface is the 'Main' component of any instrument not the 'sound'Bynar wrote:It's just an array of buttons. I'm tired of all these cheap plastic controllers coming out every 3 months. Why not use an oxygen8 keyboard (with velocity) to trigger clips. This is an industry like any other that likes to make you think that you need this shit to put on a more entertaining show. The truth is at most shows people don't care if you are triggering clips with assigned keys on your laptop or a plastic light array in the form of this or the APC. Sorry to be harsh but I just think these controllers are beginning to become nauseating. In reality there is so much you can do without a midi controller just using key assignments. Once you add modifiers like shift and alt the sky is the limit! Just as responsive and all the feedback you need is right in front of the screen. If you're playing in a DJ booth nobody can see what you are doing anyway. I don't want to hear the argument that watching a guy with a laptop is not entertaining. I say it is no more entertaining than watching a guy push buttons on a monome or apc.
True. I'm just tired of controllers that lack expressive controls. I want to see more controllers like this one!starving student wrote:I couldn't respectfully disagree with you more, there is a feeling you get when you sit down at a piano that you cannot get from sitting in front of an mpc and both of those feelings are very different from how it feels to be in front of a monome. same with a pair of turntables and a pair of cd decks ...... the interface is the 'Main' component of any instrument not the 'sound'Bynar wrote:It's just an array of buttons. I'm tired of all these cheap plastic controllers coming out every 3 months. Why not use an oxygen8 keyboard (with velocity) to trigger clips. This is an industry like any other that likes to make you think that you need this shit to put on a more entertaining show. The truth is at most shows people don't care if you are triggering clips with assigned keys on your laptop or a plastic light array in the form of this or the APC. Sorry to be harsh but I just think these controllers are beginning to become nauseating. In reality there is so much you can do without a midi controller just using key assignments. Once you add modifiers like shift and alt the sky is the limit! Just as responsive and all the feedback you need is right in front of the screen. If you're playing in a DJ booth nobody can see what you are doing anyway. I don't want to hear the argument that watching a guy with a laptop is not entertaining. I say it is no more entertaining than watching a guy push buttons on a monome or apc.
you could play the sound of a great guitar riff with all of the trimmings through a sony cd walkman and it would sound great but try playing a cd walkman as an instrument for the guitar, it's much better feeling to use an actual guitar. it's not about what the audience thinks it's about how you become one with your instrument, after that then it's what the audience thinks. i think you would write better guitar music on a guitar and give a better guitar performance on a guitar and that all of that would translate better to an audience through a guitar.
the oxygen controller might have alot of features on paper but playing percussive instruments through a keyboard interface is generally speaking as gratifying as playing keyboard/piano instruments through a percussive interface. of course both can be done and the world is your oyster. There are alot of keyboardist who like playing drums on their keyboard but not too many drummers who like playing drums on keyboards