Max for LIVE price speculations...?

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Re: Max for LIVE price speculations...?

Post by Slightlydelic » Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:55 am

garyboozy wrote:€379 / $449 / £799
with AUS & NZ pegged to the sterling price. :lol:

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Re: Max for LIVE price speculations...?

Post by stringtapper » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:03 am

Slightlydelic wrote:if its not priced inline with the other addons ableton offers i wont be interested.
Then I'd just start not being interested now if I were you so you don't waste any time.

Max for Live's feature set compared to the other paid Live devices is not really even in the same dimension. Like I said a long time ago in this thread, the most expensive Live devices are $159 and M4L will probably be twice that.
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Re: Max for LIVE price speculations...?

Post by Bleep Blop Ima Robot » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:14 am

i dont even know why people would even start speculating $99...thats like shit product pricing...be more realistic plzkaythxbai
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Re: Max for LIVE price speculations...?

Post by globalk » Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:28 am

I'm saving full price of Max/MSP for it - if it's less I'ma spill the rest on some guitar pedals from ebay :)

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Re: Max for LIVE price speculations...?

Post by synnack » Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:45 am

Tone Deft wrote:LOL at consumers saying things should be cheap.

max/msp is some heavy hitting software, it's not something like Bomes.

$500.

aim high, if it's lower you'll have saved some moolah.
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Re: Max for LIVE price speculations...?

Post by chelemasty » Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:48 am

Ok I just speculated it after visitng Cycling '74s website. It's going to be around 250 US dollars(If not, then 300 maximum :lol: ). I said this because the Max/MSP 5 is 495 dollars but it's open and not limited only to Ableton Live. So it should be lower than a regular one since it's purpose is only for Live. And lower means, a hundred or more dollars lower since it only works in Live.

And Ableton, if you're reading, be gentle with the pricing, considering inorder to use this, Ableton 7 owners should also upgrade their version to 8 so that they could use it. So it's gonna cost them double.

EDIT: Oh, and you can't open this standalone coz you're going to open it inside Live right? Now that's $100 minus for the price also.LOL
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Re: Max for LIVE price speculations...?

Post by steff3 » Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:40 am

hmmm, does M4L not also have jitter capacties? so the price of 499 may not the correct equivalent.

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Re: Max for LIVE price speculations...?

Post by chelemasty » Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:54 am

steff3 wrote:hmmm, does M4L not also have jitter capacties? so the price of 499 may not the correct equivalent.

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Actually it does have it. But still it is limited only to Ableton Live 8.
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Re: Max for LIVE price speculations...?

Post by zalo » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:31 am

chelemasty wrote:
steff3 wrote:hmmm, does M4L not also have jitter capacties? so the price of 499 may not the correct equivalent.

best,
Steff
Actually it does have it. But still it is limited only to Ableton Live 8.
I totally forgot about jitter4live, so pumped on this

for the last 6 months ive come to the conclusion that up to 300 i will buy it, up to 500 ill think twice about buying it but ultimately buy it, above that who knows

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Re: Max for LIVE price speculations...?

Post by globalk » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:43 am

chelemasty wrote:Ok I just speculated it after visitng Cycling '74s website. It's going to be around 250 US dollars(If not, then 300 maximum :lol: ). I said this because the Max/MSP 5 is 495 dollars but it's open and not limited only to Ableton Live. So it should be lower than a regular one since it's purpose is only for Live. And lower means, a hundred or more dollars lower since it only works in Live.

And Ableton, if you're reading, be gentle with the pricing, considering inorder to use this, Ableton 7 owners should also upgrade their version to 8 so that they could use it. So it's gonna cost them double.

EDIT: Oh, and you can't open this standalone coz you're going to open it inside Live right? Now that's $100 minus for the price also.LOL
Or perhaps; because it’s a more streamlined and honed set of tools designed to work very closely (and in depth, hand-in-glove, comprehensively? Symbiotically?) with Ableton, reflecting the countless work of a multitude of the world’s best music software programmers and representing a refinement (an extension AND escalation, a vastly improved new updated toolset representing the only 1.5 items of software you will ever need to create worldwide number 1 track) of max/msp, with improved built-in midi/audio interconnectivity out of the box (thanks to using Ableton Live as shell for everything your bulging imagination spew forth in an orgy of originality) .. it's actually worth MORE than the normal max/msp/jitter combo?

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Re: Max for LIVE price speculations...?

Post by chelemasty » Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:02 am

globalk wrote:
chelemasty wrote:Ok I just speculated it after visitng Cycling '74s website. It's going to be around 250 US dollars(If not, then 300 maximum :lol: ). I said this because the Max/MSP 5 is 495 dollars but it's open and not limited only to Ableton Live. So it should be lower than a regular one since it's purpose is only for Live. And lower means, a hundred or more dollars lower since it only works in Live.

And Ableton, if you're reading, be gentle with the pricing, considering inorder to use this, Ableton 7 owners should also upgrade their version to 8 so that they could use it. So it's gonna cost them double.

EDIT: Oh, and you can't open this standalone coz you're going to open it inside Live right? Now that's $100 minus for the price also.LOL
Or perhaps; because it’s a more streamlined and honed set of tools designed to work very closely (and in depth, hand-in-glove, comprehensively? Symbiotically?) with Ableton, reflecting the countless work of a multitude of the world’s best music software programmers and representing a refinement (an extension AND escalation, a vastly improved new updated toolset representing the only 1.5 items of software you will ever need to create worldwide number 1 track) of max/msp, with improved built-in midi/audio interconnectivity out of the box (thanks to using Ableton Live as shell for everything your bulging imagination spew forth in an orgy of originality) .. it's actually worth MORE than the normal max/msp/jitter combo?

Time will prove me right!

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Re: Max for LIVE price speculations...?

Post by silveriofunk » Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:49 am

garyboozy wrote:€379 / $449 / £799
hahahahah

i don't see it being less that 250 or something like that...

99?

that is the price of some of the new native instruments kore soundpacks so i really do not think that it is realistic.

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Re: Max for LIVE price speculations...?

Post by Zygi » Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:48 pm

IMO there should be a M4L runtime for a reasonable price... I wouldn't care about the price of full M4L if someone programed a good step sequencer.

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Re: Max for LIVE price speculations...?

Post by Emissary » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:09 pm

Hmm this is all interesting. $99-$150 would be an epic price, i think they would get a large amount of custom at that price, but its very unlikely. probably closer to $250-$300 i am guessing, of course this means that there is no damn way i can get it, but i'm sure 6 or 7 people will

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Re: Max for LIVE price speculations...?

Post by LOFA » Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:12 pm

Whatever it is, I hope the existing discount for current owners of each is massive. For example, at least 50% of the original cost, and hopefully closer to 75%. Do I expect this? I am not sure.

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