running ableton live on 2 laptops??

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running ableton live on 2 laptops??

Post by nexus-6 » Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:03 pm

hi
ive got 2 ibm thinkpad laptops,can somebody explain to me,if there is some advantages of running 2 versions of live(one on each laptop)in sync and what i need to do this??

would it be good to do this or???

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Post by James Talk » Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:25 pm

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Post by nexus-6 » Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:10 pm

ok sorry

but could somebody recommend me a soundcard??im thinking about a echo indigo(to both of my laptops)but is it possible to connect lets say a yamaha rmix to them??do i need something like a midisport 2+2(to both my laptops) also

hope someone will answere
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Post by mexique1 » Mon Feb 21, 2005 4:54 pm

to sync 2 laptops you just need a midi interface on both laptops

if you want to plug an rm1x (i suppose you would like to use it as the master), you can do this :
rm1x out => laptop1 in
laptop1 out => laptop2 in
(and optionally : laptop1 out => rm1x in :wink: )

i really don't know the echo soundcard, but apparently it has no midi port and mini-jack outputs... not so good... maybe you should buy a soundcard with integrated midi, so you just have to buy a midi interface for the second laptop...
can somebody explain to me,if there is some advantages of running 2 versions of live(one on each laptop)in sync
strange question... i haven't got the answer for you !!! :lol:
do you need a second version of Live ?
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Post by nexus-6 » Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:01 pm

just wondering if there would be any advantages in runnig live in sync on 2 lap-tops??if someone knows this please respond
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Post by mexique1 » Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:08 pm

i don't know, i imagine it's just like having two grooveboxes (like me :wink: ), it's just more comfortable :
you can dedicate one laptop to the drums, and the other to the synths for example, with two different controllers (an rm1x to sequence and tweak the drumz :wink: , an UC-16 on the other to control the synth parameters)

but i think your configuration should follow your wishes, don't force yourself to work on two laptops if you don't really need it
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Post by nexus-6 » Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:13 pm

ok its just i have thougt about running all my vst on one laptop and ableton live 4,1 on the other,but then i got to think about if there was some advantages in running live on 2 laptops
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Post by Machinate » Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:33 pm

nexus-6 wrote:ok its just i have thougt about running all my vst on one laptop and ableton live 4,1 on the other,but then i got to think about if there was some advantages in running live on 2 laptops
If you install a program like bidule, chainer or energyXT to host the vstis on one laptop, and sequence them from live on the second, you'd be gaining a huge advantage, cpu-wise. If you can find the money for two soundcards, and run the audio from laptop 1<=>laptop 2, then you can do all sorts of nice stuff.

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Post by borg » Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:35 pm

1. you should buy a second copy of Live to do this (this is the official Abe's forum, not :wink: you're allowed to install Live on several machines, but you can't use them at the same time, which is rather generous compared to other companies). but for experimentations sake, i tried this and worked great :smile:

2. sold my laptop yesterday, so i can't test this right now (nor did i do it the other day, see above), but what happens when you use one laptop as master, and sync no 2 to this one, then load a new Live set in no1 while no2 is running, and then try to sync no1 to no2, (which will be master then)?

still with me? because that's how i would use two laptops... when doing dance oriented stuff in the same tempo and hopping from song to song, or frop laptop 1 to 2, and back.
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hello

Post by plonkman » Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:38 pm

i`m sure there`s something called "midi over lan" that`ll let you do it through the network ports of these babys. saves a few quid on midi ifaces.

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Post by nexus-6 » Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:56 pm

hi and thanx for the replies so far :D

i know i have to use 2 versions of live :lol:

but im curioes if there is a way i can do this as cheap as possible (like if there was that midi over lan thing(where u connect the 2 laptops with a lan-caple??
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hey

Post by plonkman » Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:01 pm

http://www.musiclab.com/products/rpl_info.htm

this one costs.. but i`m sure I saw a freeware one somewhere... can`t remember where at this time... should be out there somewhere.

Mind you... wouldn`t be to difficult to program in Java.. hmm..
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Post by nexus-6 » Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:30 pm

damn plonkman hehe thats the things you should remember hehe :D
could be really nice with a really cheap way to do it,atleast until i got enough money saved up for some good pcmicia sound-cards,it would be nice to use my yamaha mg 16/4 mixer with ableton live
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Post by computo » Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:57 am

So whats with this "you have to have 2 copies of the software to run it on 2 computers" crap? I know thats what the user agreement says, but that seems, much like any other service agreement these days, like a ridiculous and perhaps legally invalid clause. this isnt atm software, its music software. There is creativity to be had, and if someone needs to do some work that requires an alternative use of the software he paid for he should be free to do it. Thats like if you bought a synthesizer, but if you wanted to use more than one sound out of it at the same point on a recording, you had to pay for a whole other synthsizer. Its manipulative and silly.

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Post by computo » Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:00 am

I mean, once a product is legally purchased, the user should be, and legally probably is, allowed to do whatever in the bounds of their imagination they can do, short of beating someone to death with it.

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