Joshua Boden wrote:I ment no ill will. I was looing for more of an advanced look at Live as a DJ application. A deeper look at warping full tracks. I have yet to see any one really takle the issue of warping non-electronic tracks, Jazz, funk, R&B, hiphop and the like. Thats what I was hopeing for. Been working with Live since Version 4, but just now wanting to take the act to the club. But I dont spin straight dance tracks, some minimal house, breaks and DnB, but also a lot of Dub, Roots, and funk. Not as easy to warp that stuff ya know?
Anyway, sorry if I offended. Was totally not my intention. Your presentaion in the tutorial was spot on. But just as you said, not what I was looking for. Now if you have any advice as far was the things I mentioned above I am all ears!
Cheers!
no man I don't take offense at all - I just want to make sure I know what the reasons are
that series is very much a beginner one - I meet DJs all the time who are interested in Ableton because they've heard of it and don't have the faintest idea where to start - that title is basically aimed at them, and it is also vol 1, there will be several to follow - in fact I'm more or less sticking to DJ stuff for the next few titles, so there will be a few volumes
as for warping unquantized tracks etc - I actually tried to cover that in the series using the drum kit - I know that Live's detection is not always that spot on, but I've found since Live 8 what I did in that tutorial works in a surprising number of cases. To be honest I dont warp a lot of more tricky stuff like Jazz, (although I was having a go at Tito Puente the other night - and yeah, it was a challenge! ) but now that you mention it I'll take that on board and maybe try and find some better examples for Volume 2. Copyright can be a bit restrictive for us because we can't just use anything, and I am into electronic music so all my examples are quantised. I'll see if the guys can track down some Jazz/funk we can use
but ultimately the same still applies - warping complex stuff takes a while for sure - but you only have to do it once! you really need to break it down to 1 - 2 bar chunks and just get it right a bar at a time- there really isn't any other way
but the whole technique of finding the first major beat and choosing "set 1.1.1 here" then "warp from here" works in a surprising number of cases. I have warped James Brown tracks that way, and other old stuff - Live 8 can get it close, but you still need to tweak it
thanks for your feedback, I'll definitely take it on board
