ot...why i believe in the death penalty

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:04 pm

hambone1 wrote:
sqook wrote:
hambone1 wrote: IMO, termination (in a humane way) of abusers and all violent criminals will eventually break the cycle by removing them from the gene pool.
So, the more criminals we execute, the fewer people we'll have to execute, right?
Exactly! Natural selection with a bit of help...

"let's jut kill everyone and let your god sort them out"
Marilyn Manson

Chris J · Post by **Chris J** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:05 pm

djadonis206 wrote:You called someone a Nazi on a German website - hmmm the irony

hmm adonis, surpassing yourself... again.

unfortunately although Nazis started in Germany, you should know that the Nazi mentality spreaded worldwide.
It was there long before, it's always been there.

Chris J · Post by **Chris J** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:07 pm

mazzotti, I apologize for my comments, I didn't know about your mental state, (although I should have, there were clues) where I come from we don't mock the mentally disable, so again sorry

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:08 am

It's interesting to hear people quoting the ten commandments, though shall not, etc. or talking about "an eye for an eye".

Christ never said any of that. It's funny to read posts by people who on one hand talk about inflicting painful deaths on criminals, but on the other hand invoke Christianity as their justification.

According to Matthew Christ did say:

"You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.'
But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you,"

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God."

"Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy."

You really think christ would sentence someone to die in the electric chair? Nowhere in the new testament have I ever read anything about "and they shall be thrown into a pit of alligators..."

BTW, I don't consider myself Christian, but I have read the book.

What's really lame are those people who think that us "soft lefties" have lived some sheltered life, free of violence and abuse and just want to go cuddle up with rapists and murderers.

Utter codwswollop. I've been beaten senseless, jumped, had my head split open with a bat once, and a golf club another time, been robbed, had guns stuck in my face and all of it, except for one instance, for nothing more than being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Under no circumstance do I support the death penalty. Regardless of the crime.

jackmazzotti · Post by **jackmazzotti** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:06 am

it is simply a matter of law and order

child porn and human trafficking is EXPLODING! all over the globe

punishment should fit the crime

as I have said before

don't wanna die

then leave children alone

but time and time again
these things are let out of prision only to do it again
because of cowardly wimpy judges that are blind in regarding matters of right and wrong

yes you are a bunch of massive softies

don't want the death penalty
then mandatory life without parole

don't try and out Bible verse me

Romans 13:4

notice the word sword
you don't spank with a sword or slap on the wrist with it
you kill with it!

4 for he is a servant of God to you for good. But if you do that which is evil, be afraid, for he doesn't bear the SWORD in vain; for he is a servant of God, an avenger for wrath to him who does evil.

Forgivenss and mercy also needs to be done with wisdom or the will be no society but total anarchy

so what do the cowards want to do with child rapists?

well if you let them out then YOU! WILL BE GUILTY FOR THEIR CRIMES AS WELL!

yes I would rather stand before God Almighty and say "yes I want and support the death of child pornagraphers and child rapists by my government" instead of "well God I didn't want to be guilty of murdering these people so I would rather let be free and just hope they don't do it again"

nope not me
down with them!

jackmazzotti · Post by **jackmazzotti** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:39 am

the supreme court is a complete disgrace to America and human beings in general

http://www.freedomforum.org/templates/d ... ntID=16082

it will now become much much hader to track down the locations of kidnapped children and to determine wether or not is it a real image or a morphed one

just to satistfy the sick desires of pedephiles

and for those of you that think it would be wrong to deny the poor old pedephiles their jollies by banning virtual child porn or just view this as "freedom of speech"

then you can bet that I AM JUDGING YOU
as a completely and utterly worthless individual

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:55 am

Please get your Jesus out of my government.

Jack, read your posts replace the words God and Jesus with MY hero, the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

http://www.venganza.org/

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:26 am

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:28 am

I don't know if someone has said this yet, but the punishment has to be removal from society, not death.

Justice has to be as fair as humanly possible, you cannot punish the person who is obviously guilty with NO shadow of a doubt at a disproportionate level to those that are found guilty beyond a reasonable shadow of a doubt.
First of all, it rewards the sneaky criminal, and makes it more of a crime to plead guilty... Secondly, with the simple fact that people do accuse and convict the wrong person all the time. when I moved to Washington state here in the USA, a man had just bean released from prison for a rape he didn't commit. The pictures of him and the actual rapist showed plainly why the woman who was raped made the mistake, at the very least they looked like brothers.
The only reason he was let free is because the rapist went in for a 30 year sentence on kidnapping, otherwise he would have stayed in.... If there had been a law allowing the state to castrate this man, his life would have been stolen from him in a bigger way than five years in prison did.

This happens to people, and personally, I see NO reason to allow the government to do more than sentence people to prison, remove them from society, of course! but if you take it to too far, then the state becomes the guilty party IMO. I would rather have a free society with a few problems than a society in which the government is privy to fascist ideas of law.

If you think prison is too easy or whatever, then spend a week in prison. It's not too long of a period of time. You'll be OK!

The law should never be an emotional issue, you have to make rational choices about punishment, or you become as bad as the criminals.

As a side note I was pro death penalty for the longest time after reading a few books on serial killers, but a few books on the nature of law made me rethink my views.

jackmazzotti · Post by **jackmazzotti** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:58 am

something for the mensa thinkers to ponder

convicted sex offenders striking again
can you believe it

it can't be!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/ ... 2042.shtml

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/ ... 8542.shtml

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/ ... 8646.shtml

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/ ... 3437.shtml

Hey Judge Imbecile shouldn't we let them go again I bet they are really sorry this time..... Plus we have to PC or someone may get mad at us and call us mean or even worse and call us JUDGEMENTAL (cue up dramatic orchestra hit!)

Oh no not that!

I fully support the throwing of imbecile judges off exremely high cliffs
you could say they were thrown out of court

jackmazzotti · Post by **jackmazzotti** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:15 am

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/ ... 3437.shtml

The state's Sexual Offender Registry said Bentley was convicted in 1994 of lascivious acts with a child. He served two years of a five-year sentence.

James Bentley also is in jail awaiting trial on a charge of second-degree sexual abuse.

I dedicated this information to the dumbos that what to waste our tax dollars on rehab while more and more preventable victims are created

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:17 am

Don't you have to get up early for church in the morning?

jackmazzotti · Post by **jackmazzotti** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:24 am

this pack of ghouls was let off the hook completely
after helping couey hide jessica lunsford

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/ ... 7002.shtml

http://drinkthis.typepad.com/answer_thi ... index.html

i spoke to district attorney king's secretary about this
she didn't like talking with me too much

couey previously convicted sex offender kidknapped, raped, bound, and then buried that poor little 9 year old girl ALIVE!

yes people there is a real HELL!

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:33 am

jackmazzotti wrote:something for the mensa thinkers to ponder

that sums it up doesn't it.

BTW, you calling yourself a hippy is absolutely annoying, and a misuse of the term.

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:36 am

Machinesworking wrote:
jackmazzotti wrote:something for the mensa thinkers to ponder
that sums it up doesn't it.

BTW, you calling yourself a hippy is absolutely annoying, and a misuse of the term.

LMFAO!!! <seriously>

<high five>