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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:09 pm
by heavensdaw
and me
Hd
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:16 pm
by heavensdaw
Amaury wrote:Hi,
As far as it's identified, this is a pretty harmless bug, cosmetic if you like: if it happens that the insertion mark is on the 1.1.1., start playback, stop playback. The black line that indicates stays where you stopped the playback as expected.
What should then happen when double clicking the Stop button in the transport, is that the black playhead would disappear. It doesn't. But if you start the playback again, it starts from 1.1.1., as expected, because the insertion mark is still there.
If the insertion mark is anywhere else than 1.1.1., double clicking on the stop button does work, it resets the insertion mark to 1.1.1.
Regards,
Amaury
Thanks.. So will it stay like this?
Hd
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:18 pm
by Angstrom
Amaury wrote:Hi,
As far as it's identified, this is a pretty harmless bug, cosmetic if you like: if it happens that the insertion mark is on the 1.1.1., start playback, stop playback. The black line that indicates stays where you stopped the playback as expected.
What should then happen when double clicking the Stop button in the transport, is that the black playhead would disappear. It doesn't. But if you start the playback again, it starts from 1.1.1., as expected, because the insertion mark is still there.
If the insertion mark is anywhere else than 1.1.1., double clicking on the stop button does work, it resets the insertion mark to 1.1.1.
Regards,
Amaury
But the Arrangement Position indicator (the clock) ought to show 1.1.1 when the stop button is pressed twice. This is not so much a problem of a visible playhead, but of the 'clock' reading incorrectly compared to the behaviour in earlier versions of Live
The Arrangement Position indicator still shows whatever position the playhead was at when stop was pressed.
In L7.14 the Arrangement Position indicator resets to 1.1.1
in L8 b9 the Arrangement Position indicator stays at 4.1.3 (or wherever)
causing this user to repeatedly jab at his stop control
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 3:26 pm
by Amaury
Angstrom wrote:Amaury wrote:Hi,
As far as it's identified, this is a pretty harmless bug, cosmetic if you like: if it happens that the insertion mark is on the 1.1.1., start playback, stop playback. The black line that indicates stays where you stopped the playback as expected.
What should then happen when double clicking the Stop button in the transport, is that the black playhead would disappear. It doesn't. But if you start the playback again, it starts from 1.1.1., as expected, because the insertion mark is still there.
If the insertion mark is anywhere else than 1.1.1., double clicking on the stop button does work, it resets the insertion mark to 1.1.1.
Regards,
Amaury
But the Arrangement Position indicator (the clock) ought to show 1.1.1 when the stop button is pressed twice. This is not so much a problem of a visible playhead, but of the 'clock' reading incorrectly compared to the behaviour in earlier versions of Live
The Arrangement Position indicator still shows whatever position the playhead was at when stop was pressed.
In L7.14 the Arrangement Position indicator resets to 1.1.1
in L8 b9 the Arrangement Position indicator stays at 4.1.3 (or wherever)
causing this user to repeatedly jab at his stop control
Sure, the bug is that the playhead does not vanish, and as a consequence, the transport position still shows whatever the playhead was at. I'm not saying it's how it's supposed to be, I'm explaining the bug.
We'll hopefully fix it, as we expect fixing any bug, but we have more serious ones to take care of. Prioritizing is not a comfortable job.
Please refer to change logs to see when this one gets fixed.
Regards,
Amaury
Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:13 pm
by naph
the most annoying thing i just realized about this bug.. is that if you are sketching up in session view, you have no way to get back to 1.1.1 unless you switch to arrange and manually click the timeline.
do you confirm this?
Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:03 am
by bland_handl
naph wrote:the most annoying thing i just realized about this bug.. is that if you are sketching up in session view, you have no way to get back to 1.1.1 unless you switch to arrange and manually click the timeline.
do you confirm this?
double-stop does return you to 1.1.1 even from session
it just doesn't display the numbers correctly
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:58 am
by Nokatus
Amaury wrote:As far as it's identified, this is a pretty harmless bug, cosmetic if you like
bland_handl wrote:double-stop does return you to 1.1.1 even from session
it just doesn't display the numbers correctly
Actually, it seems to be more serious than that. Not updating the position messes up the playback of position dependent VST plugins when starting over the playback, or switching the playback position via an Arrangement marker, for example. See
http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?p=848975
Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:02 am
by MKS
Might this also have an impact on Rewire slave playback e.g. Reason?
Re: [4699] stop button doesn't return to zero.
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:46 pm
by Amaury
Hi,
this bug is now fixed, in beta 14. I move the thread away. Please create a new one if a new problem arises.
Regards,
Amaury