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Really. So are you saying that anyone who sees a crime like discrimination or sexual harassment in a workplace should also not snitch on those who perpetrate such crimes?

then excuse me that i don't understand the word correctly a snitch after my understanding is someone who permanently spy's on you and gains either a profit or comfort out of 'reporting' you...

it is not someone who is helping someone in need. such as a discrimination or harassment.

or am i wrong regarding the meaning snitch respectively the expression 'grassing someone up' ???

please correct me, to me people who do that in order to gain a personal comfort, or profit are the worse characters ever on this planet. YES!

they deserve to suffer.

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SubFunk wrote:

Really. So are you saying that anyone who sees a crime like discrimination or sexual harassment in a workplace should also not snitch on those who perpetrate such crimes?

then excuse me that i don't understand the word correctly a snitch after my understanding is someone who permanently spy's on you and gains either a profit or comfort out of 'reporting' you...

it is not someone who is helping someone in need. such as a discrimination or harassment.

or am i wrong regarding the meaning snitch respectively the expression 'grassing someone up'

please correct me, to me people who do that in order to gain a personal comfort, or profit are the worse characters ever on this planet. YES!

A "snitch" is simply someone who informs on another of something (usually a wrongdoing).

It seems clear that you think snitching on someone discriminating is helping someone, yet snitching on someone for stealing would somehow not be helping someone. Strange.

So either you don't think stealing is a crime or you just have relativistic beliefs when it comes to "wrongdoing."

Whatever works for you. But for me, either all laws should be upheld or none should be upheld. (And I mean none, as in things like murder and cannibalism should be ok.)

stringtapper wrote:

SubFunk wrote:

Really. So are you saying that anyone who sees a crime like discrimination or sexual harassment in a workplace should also not snitch on those who perpetrate such crimes?

then excuse me that i don't understand the word correctly a snitch after my understanding is someone who permanently spy's on you and gains either a profit or comfort out of 'reporting' you...

it is not someone who is helping someone in need. such as a discrimination or harassment.

or am i wrong regarding the meaning snitch respectively the expression 'grassing someone up'

please correct me, to me people who do that in order to gain a personal comfort, or profit are the worse characters ever on this planet. YES!

A "snitch" is simply someone who informs on another of something (usually a wrongdoing).

It seems clear that you think snitching on someone discriminating is helping someone, yet snitching on someone for stealing would somehow not be helping someone. Strange.

So either you don't think stealing is a crime or you just have relativistic beliefs when it comes to "wrongdoing."

Whatever works for you. But for me, either all laws should be upheld or none should be upheld. (And I mean none, as in things like murder and cannibalism should be ok.)

OK, then i misunderstand the term snitch.

and i don't believe in equal laws or actually any laws except my own ones (yet i have no interest in pressing them to anyone). that might sound very strange and is probably only possible to get across / explain over a hell lot of contradictions (welcome to the real world!) and at least 3 nights of talking to each other.

plus: maybe as strange as it might sound i am very sensitive towards it, my home country f-up twice with a lot of help from 'snitches'
the 2WW and the GDR are great examples what those people are like, i rather have them not.
and people rather learn to respect themselves, therefor automatically not stealing or doing any 'wrong' very idealistic, i know, but better IMHO then what we had before...

SubFunk wrote:and i don't believe in equal laws or actually any laws except my own ones (yet i have no interest in pressing them to anyone). that might sound very strange and is probably only possible to get across / explain over a hell lot of contradictions (welcome to the real world!) and at least 3 nights of talking to each other.

Maybe it's time to revise and simplify?

elxicano wrote:

SubFunk wrote:and i don't believe in equal laws or actually any laws except my own ones (yet i have no interest in pressing them to anyone). that might sound very strange and is probably only possible to get across / explain over a hell lot of contradictions (welcome to the real world!) and at least 3 nights of talking to each other.

Maybe it's time to revise and simplify?

it's not possible, life is not simple. unless you are a lucky animal and just f-ck, kill and eat. and have no morals.

one more thing about a snitch, i am for example like to address people always personally... if i see a 'wrong' let's say a kid stealing in a supermarket, i rather tell him to put it back into the shelf and watch him doing it then reporting him to the police or supermarket manager. makes in this case a fucking policeman, the ones i hate very much, you see life is just full of contradictions... (i don't do that, i just wanted to point out it's contradictions in life, all over the place) so who says what's right or wrong... ui, this can be an endless discussion, what did we started here?

simple to me, i don't like snitches for the given reasons.

never snitch... unless it's revenge you're after... still... don't do it..

SubFunk wrote:

elxicano wrote:

SubFunk wrote:and i don't believe in equal laws or actually any laws except my own ones (yet i have no interest in pressing them to anyone). that might sound very strange and is probably only possible to get across / explain over a hell lot of contradictions (welcome to the real world!) and at least 3 nights of talking to each other.

Maybe it's time to revise and simplify?

it's not possible, life is not simple. unless you are a lucky animal and just f-ck, kill and eat. and have no morals.

Uh, how does simplify mean dumb-down?

If it takes 3 nights of seminar like conversations to understand your thought on laws or rules as you see them, then maybe you don't have things figured out well enough. True, life is not always so simple, but sometimes, for somethings it just is and then other times life is just not that complicated.

But, this was just a simple suggestion, which you can simply ignore. Thankfully nothing too complex here.

3dot... wrote:never snitch... unless it's revenge you're after... still... don't do it..

Then what's the point of saying never?

Uh, how does simplify mean dumb-down?

If it takes 3 nights of seminar like conversations to understand your thought on laws or rules as you see them, then maybe you don't have things figured out well enough. True, life is not always so simple, but sometimes, for somethings it just is and then other times life is just not that complicated.

But, this was just a simple suggestion, which you can simply ignore. Thankfully nothing too complex here. :wink

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he?

i am not able to follow you what you are on about, i guess we do have a great misunderstanding here... why do you say: 'how does simplify mean dumb-down?'

i don't get you!

lately i really need to revisit my ability to speak or write english... is it that bad...? or why do people like to twist my words in my mouth?

SubFunk wrote:

Uh, how does simplify mean dumb-down?

If it takes 3 nights of seminar like conversations to understand your thought on laws or rules as you see them, then maybe you don't have things figured out well enough. True, life is not always so simple, but sometimes, for somethings it just is and then other times life is just not that complicated.

But, this was just a simple suggestion, which you can simply ignore. Thankfully nothing too complex here. :wink

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he?

i am not able to follow you what you are on about, i guess we do have a great misunderstanding here... why do you say: 'how does simplify mean dumb-down?'

i don't get you!

lately i really need to revisit my ability to speak or write english... is it that bad...? or why do people like to twist my words in my mouth?

My apologies then... I often forget for how many that English is not their first language.

Just forget the previous comments... really just having a bit of fun at wordplay (twisting words).

To revise what I initially meant... I'm only saying that it shouldn't take that long to explain your take on rules and laws. Surely I'll agree that contradictions on such a subject are bound to happen due to issues of morality, but maybe a revised or simplified form would be more productive?

Anyways, these are just conversational words and not to be taken as anything else and perhaps it would be better to discuss over rounds of drinks.

elxicano wrote:

3dot... wrote:never snitch... unless it's revenge you're after... still... don't do it..

Then what's the point of saying never?

There really is no point in saying never... its an almost useless word that gets used way too much. There is not really such a thing as 'never' unless you're referring back to something that has 'never' happened...yet. Otherwise, its a just a place holder, like zero, for something that will probably eventually happen. As for using it when referring to the future... thats pretty daft unless you know exactly when something is ending, permanently, like a life or something else that could actually bar something from ever happening. Since that type of knowledge is quite rare, the word should be too.

elxicano wrote:

3dot... wrote:never snitch... unless it's revenge you're after... still... don't do it..

Then what's the point of saying never?

you're right... NEEEVER say never !
(except about snitchin')

biting my tongue.