am i the only one freaked out about the massive oil screwup?

[beats me]

Oh, and note - in the UK our petrol (gas) is currently $7.75USD per gallon
prices across Europe are similar

I don't live in the EU and I really don't have an answer as to why gas prices are high there and historically the response from the EU to American's outrage over rising gas prices has been "Oh you think that's high, do ya?.....", but I have heard that it wasn't until about the last decade that the general populous of the EU got inspired by our fat asses and felt the need for everybody to own their own car. Before then they were mostly content with public transportation, trains, and this thing they call "walking". So I'd have to say at least part of it is less demand means higher prices.

[smutek]

Expect gas to be $4.00+ a gallon by mid summer. Of course this disaster doesn't justify that hike but they'll use it anyway and the ignorant public will just roll with it.

Yep, we're to busy playing liberals vs. conservatives. Meanwhile the whole lot of us are getting fucked, every day, as usual.

[Machinesworking]

Much like the Gulf War and the War on Terrorism, its not about the oil, its about the money. As long as oil is worth more it'll keep getting pumped, despite the relevance or irrelevance of outdated technology like the internal combustion engine.

This is the ultimate failure of capitalism, but hey, nobody wants to look at alternatives, so this is the consequence, massive oil spills, mortgage crisis's leading to recession and war. We're not going out with a bang cold war style, but with a wimper serf/slav/slave mentality style.
Gonna get a little hippy but some people think that at some point mankind will stop letting those in power dominate and destroy the planet with their greed, that there's going to be a paradigm shift in consciousness with the same sort of impact that the shift away from hunter gatherer had on people. That the owning class and governments will also realize that it's time to give people and the planet a break. It's a nice fuzzy thought.

[djsynchro]

Drill baby drill.

[5meohd]

i have not even seen or looked at any news about this. i have heard. i just don't even want to think about it. fuck.

[ethios4]

I'm glad it at least happened before bills were signed allowing much more off-shore drilling.

Oh I don't think the timing is a coincidence.

Do you think the 'splosion was planned or something?

[Angstrom]

Oh, and note - in the UK our petrol (gas) is currently $7.75USD per gallon
prices across Europe are similar

I don't live in the EU and I really don't have an answer as to why gas prices are high there and historically the response from the EU to American's outrage over rising gas prices has been "Oh you think that's high, do ya?.....", but I have heard that it wasn't until about the last decade that the general populous of the EU got inspired by our fat asses and felt the need for everybody to own their own car. Before then they were mostly content with public transportation, trains, and this thing they call "walking". So I'd have to say at least part of it is less demand means higher prices.

You think there is less demand for cars in the EU?
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/tra_c ... ation-cars


Nope, the high pricing is mainly because of what you guys in America might call "Red Commie Socialist Statist Oppression". IE : taxes.

Our fuel is taxed more highly here, in fact it's 71% . Seventy One fucking percent.
You might think this feeds into some kind of utopian silver and gold public monorail system, turtle cuddling centres and herbal whole-earth windfarm crochet centres.
But no - it goes to support the usual shit.

[UKRuss]

85% of what we pay at the pump is tax and the companies still make millionsa minute profit.

Its all different kinds of wrong.

But as you type, look at your keyboard. oh yes, it's all petro chemical by products my friends.

hands up who wants a recycled cardboard computer/audio interface/apc40...

We're all to blame and even if we wanted out, we cannot. We are petrol products and petrol products R Us.

[ChiDJ]

Just kills me to think about all the wildlife that will suffer. But, then I like animals a lot more than stupid humans.

[UKRuss]

You cannot shag the animals Tod!

[davepermen]

depends on the animal..

and it's not rape if they're dead.. (quote from 'dead like me', a tv series)

[beats me]

I'm glad it at least happened before bills were signed allowing much more off-shore drilling.

Oh I don't think the timing is a coincidence.

Do you think the 'splosion was planned or something?

I'm just saying it's really convenient that we were just about to start drilling elsewhere again and this happens and there's no shortage of people who will benefit financially or ideologically from this disaster.

[Rave]

You cannot shag the animals Tod!

I think it is too late for that.

[beats me]

Is there any topic on this forum that doesn't somehow get parlayed into a discussion on Tod's sex life?

[ChiDJ]

Gosh Guys. I was just sayin'