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Re: using ableton in a traditional way
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:59 am
by smaucher
this.
Re: using ableton in a traditional way
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:41 am
by fisto
well boys. It may be good for some children minimaltechno with 10 tracks, but lets see what you will think when you have to mix 60+ tracks of drum&bass. Then we talk again ok?
Cheers!
PS: I'm already switching to X1 so theres no point in telling me to do so. Just wanted to help some fellow musicians with their soundquality. But it seems like here in Ableland, one is not supposed to tell something bad about Live.
Re: using ableton in a traditional way
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:54 am
by smaucher
fisto wrote:well boys. It may be good for some children minimaltechno with 10 tracks, but lets see what you will think when you have to mix 60+ tracks of drum&bass. Then we talk again ok?
Cheers!
PS: I'm already switching to X1 so theres no point in telling me to do so. Just wanted to help some fellow musicians with their soundquality. But it seems like here in Ableland, one is not supposed to tell something bad about Live.
have fun!
Re: using ableton in a traditional way
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:23 am
by ninox_rufa
fisto wrote: But it seems like here in Ableland, one is supposed to back up their claims with evidence instead of opinion based on subjective listening.
Fixed!
Drum and Bass? Not my thing, but I use Live for psytrance with 20+ tracks. I switched from Logic about 18 months ago. There's definitely a few bugs Ableton badly need to fix but I have no problems with the sound quality.
Re: using ableton in a traditional way
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:29 am
by smaucher
@ninox_rufa: thanks!
Re: using ableton in a traditional way
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:56 am
by necho
hahahahaha....... its been a while since someone announced that "Live has a bad audio thingy cos my mixes sound bad!"... always makes me laugh.
carry on.
Re: using ableton in a traditional way
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:03 pm
by fisto
necho wrote:hahahahaha....... its been a while since someone announced that "Live has a bad audio thingy cos my mixes sound bad!"... always makes me laugh.
carry on.
thats the fun in the Ableton Forum: You say A and they say that you said B.
HAHAHAAAAA. Idiot. Learn to read!

Re: using ableton in a traditional way
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:31 pm
by smaucher
@all: do not feed the troll!
nothing left to discuss. I'm outta here. gotta make music!
Re: using ableton in a traditional way
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:38 pm
by simonlb
I thought all this summing engine stuff had been debated to death on here already.
Yes, you can use Ableton for traditional recording. Use Arrange view and make sure your recordings aren't Warped.
Re: using ableton in a traditional way
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:40 pm
by smaucher
simonlb wrote:I thought all this summing engine stuff had been debated to death on here already.
Yes, you can use Ableton for traditional recording. Use Arrange view and make sure your recordings aren't Warped.
yep, but fisto just doesn't get it.
Re: using ableton in a traditional way
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:36 pm
by Neon Breath
fisto wrote:When i bounce all tracks to mix it in reaper it immediately sounds clearer.
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Total bull. You're either a troll or an incompetent who has absolutely no idea how to render correctly and how to use Live properly.
Re: using ableton in a traditional way
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:39 pm
by CFM
Live does certain things much better than other DAW’s and could be used in a traditional way. Inspiration and creation are much better in live as well as using loops. However, I use Sonar to master and finish my tracks and maybe if I was going to use it exclusively in a traditional way (eg, vocals, drums, bass, guitar, keyboard) then maybe I plump for Sonar.
Re: using ableton in a traditional way
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:52 pm
by fisto
oh you poor little fanboys.
Just tell me which commercial Studio would ever use Live for Recording and Mixing? ha?
Oh so what?
Re: using ableton in a traditional way
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:57 pm
by necho
hehehehe.....
ok Mr Fisty-golden-ears, post some examples so we can hear what you're on about! Go on - what are you afraid of?
Re: using ableton in a traditional way
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:04 pm
by simonlb
Commerical studios using software other than Live for recording and mixing is more of a workflow issue... and tradition, all these guys who've been in the game for 30 years are gonna stick to what they know. The fact that Live isn't ideal for that application isn't due to its sound quality, it's that the likes of Pro Tools are just more effective and efficient for recording bands and suchlike.