using ableton in a traditional way
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carllackey
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using ableton in a traditional way
i'm new to ableton and was wondering if i could make this my only daw. i write acoustic/heavy glitch idm style music. i know for all the glitch electronic stuff it's perfect. but i would like to record acoustics, electrics and live vocals. can ableton record these as good as other daws like studio one pro or reaper or reason/record?. i have searched the forum buy nobody really answered the question. thanks
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hacktheplanet
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Re: using ableton in a traditional way
Absolutely. My band has been recording our album entirely in Live. (Guitar/bass/drums/vocals)
Re: using ableton in a traditional way
we're recording these days:
drums (12 microphone channels, lots of effects), basses (acoustic/electric/lots of effects), guitars (acoustic/electric, lots of effects, amps and GR4 pro), keyboards (audio/MIDI using hardware stuff: EMU, Roland Yamaha and live's suite sounds and samples) and vocals.
I haven't found anything to be missing yet - besides a mixer console like in Studio One or PT or Cubase.
drums (12 microphone channels, lots of effects), basses (acoustic/electric/lots of effects), guitars (acoustic/electric, lots of effects, amps and GR4 pro), keyboards (audio/MIDI using hardware stuff: EMU, Roland Yamaha and live's suite sounds and samples) and vocals.
I haven't found anything to be missing yet - besides a mixer console like in Studio One or PT or Cubase.
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carllackey
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Re: using ableton in a traditional way
thanks guys! i appreciate it!
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you're welcome 
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Re: using ableton in a traditional way
I would not make it your own daw. Rather use sonar x1 or reaper.
Lve has a bad summing engine, you can easily screw up your sound through false warping, and its just not a pro daw. See it more like a tool.
When i bounce all tracks to mix it in reaper it immediately sounds clearer.
Also the pricing is quite high compared to the biggest sonar version and especially reaper.
Reaper 4 is comming soon and Sonar x1 comes december 8th.
Take a close look a the other daws before going ableton only, as this is not a real all in one solution.
Lve has a bad summing engine, you can easily screw up your sound through false warping, and its just not a pro daw. See it more like a tool.
When i bounce all tracks to mix it in reaper it immediately sounds clearer.
Also the pricing is quite high compared to the biggest sonar version and especially reaper.
Reaper 4 is comming soon and Sonar x1 comes december 8th.
Take a close look a the other daws before going ableton only, as this is not a real all in one solution.
Re: using ableton in a traditional way
huh?fisto wrote:Lve has a bad summing engine
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Re: using ableton in a traditional way
Or Audio-engine whatever you wanna call it. Fact is that mixes rendered from live sound muddy, and the same rendered from reaper sounds defenetely clearer.
So its cool to write tunes in live but rather mix them in another program.
So its cool to write tunes in live but rather mix them in another program.
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LeifonMars
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Re: using ableton in a traditional way
Oh come on dude, if you wanna stir, please, learn your trade first (or something like that but you get what I'm saying).fisto wrote:Or Audio-engine whatever you wanna call it. Fact is that mixes rendered from live sound muddy, and the same rendered from reaper sounds defenetely clearer.
So its cool to write tunes in live but rather mix them in another program.
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mr.ergonomics
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Re: using ableton in a traditional way
please post examples or it didn't happen. I tried to proof it but (and yes I believed the rumours a time) the result was the opposite. drums tracks that I thought sound better in cubase do absolutely null in a phase test when I redo them in live. Live is not always sample accurate but this is another story. I would be happy if I found something.fisto wrote:
Lve has a bad summing engine
Re: using ableton in a traditional way
One of the biggest bull around here. In 32bit/44.1kHz (no mention 96kHz...) Live sounds absolute transparent (crystal clear...). I don't say it sounds better than Logic or ProTools, though it doesn't sound worse.fisto wrote:... Fact is that mixes rendered from live sound muddy...
FX and instruments in Logic Studio "suite" sound outstanding, but MainStage is many light years away comparing to the Live's Session View.
If you're not a commercial studio owner then you should choose Ableton Live. Otherwise ProTools with it's inconvenient edition would be the best choice if you get paid per hour
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Re: using ableton in a traditional way
go get yourself a copy of StudioOne and stop posting bullsh*t.fisto wrote:Or Audio-engine whatever you wanna call it. Fact is that mixes rendered from live sound muddy, and the same rendered from reaper sounds defenetely clearer.
So its cool to write tunes in live but rather mix them in another program.
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Jacqueslacouth
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Re: using ableton in a traditional way
Actually, I have just bailed on Logic and to be perfectly honest I am happily surprised at the quality of the sound from live...even more so by the quality of the plug-ins included. No regrets here!
