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The Carpet Cleaner wrote:Yes everyone have their own methods

To me, that seems not really time efficient.
You re spending a week to create sounds, that at the end might not work well together. Moreover, while designing the sounds, you could have some inspiration to place your new sound in a riff or a beat, and passed on that occasion.

Maybe good if you are working on a sample pack

Hahaha yea. Well, I'm going to give it a go and report back. A week spent experimenting is a week well spent if you ask me. I'm more for creative exploration than tangible productivity at the moment.

And if it doesn't work, maybe I just need to consolidate the two ideas and design sounds while writing while still keeping earnest about filling up the velocity/note range of each instrument.

Also I should perhaps note that all my drums come from recordings that take up the whole frequency spectrum as they're field recordings.

I've spent weeks procrastinating, so one week of sound design is not a waste of time

Good luck in your project and report back!

i usually try to keep them separate, but cant help combining the two- inspiration is a two way street between those two elements if you ask me!

The Carpet Cleaner wrote:Yes everyone have their own methods

To me, that seems not really time efficient.
You re spending a week to create sounds, that at the end might not work well together. Moreover, while designing the sounds, you could have some inspiration to place your new sound in a riff or a beat, and passed on that occasion.

Maybe good if you are working on a sample pack

i think it´s more a method of experienced sound designers. i tried the other way around... writing a loop/mainpart/chords/bass/melody with a piano only and then i load operator and start to create my own sounds from scratch. so i learn a lot about writing without giving me a direction because of presets and i learn real sound design from scratch in a musical context. i worked a long time with presets, a bit of tweaking and writing a loop with that but the sounds/presets restricts me so i try another way.

if the piano works together with chords, bass, melody etc. its only a matter of designing the right sounds because i concentrate more on the groove. think about it like a whole track as a midi file (with or without BASIC piano drums).

i hope that helps!

d.reamonn wrote:

david.barker wrote:Im still learning computer based music,but I tend to write my ideas down,kind of story board
have a folder on the desktop,and put all my stuff in there

I tend to work from that designing sounds,that fit togehter,and usually have 3 versions going,before I decide on the final one

Tweaking the sounds,moving stuff ,automating,the usual suspects,

I usually land up with a test MP3 to listen to,before uploading onto Soundcloud

If I may interject, sir, you sure ain't fucking about.

Sure,although this is a kind of hobby for me,I have invested a lot of money and time,into something which I like a lot..
I started years back with Reason,creating sounds and got the bug from there
If I had the money I would like to do a proper course and hone my skills even further,he,he
I found my corner,as I like to produce ambient sounds,dark,etc

Evengy wrote:

The Carpet Cleaner wrote:Yes everyone have their own methods

To me, that seems not really time efficient.
You re spending a week to create sounds, that at the end might not work well together. Moreover, while designing the sounds, you could have some inspiration to place your new sound in a riff or a beat, and passed on that occasion.

Maybe good if you are working on a sample pack

i think it´s more a method of experienced sound designers. i tried the other way around... writing a loop/mainpart/chords/bass/melody with a piano only and then i load operator and start to create my own sounds from scratch. so i learn a lot about writing without giving me a direction because of presets and i learn real sound design from scratch in a musical context. i worked a long time with presets, a bit of tweaking and writing a loop with that but the sounds/presets restricts me so i try another way.

if the piano works together with chords, bass, melody etc. its only a matter of designing the right sounds because i concentrate more on the groove. think about it like a whole track as a midi file (with or without BASIC piano drums).

i hope that helps!

Yes that s a good idea, the piano is a great composition tool.

Here are two great replies to your question:

http://www.musicsoftwaretraining.com/bl ... ngwriting/
(Author: Jason Timothy)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_JReiE1uFk
(Author: DJ Vespers)

Inspiring stuff.