well, I'd say that might be true for lower budget stuff...but when we're talking about a combined value in excess of 5k ....I want flexibility. I want a good cpu, a good interface, a good soundcard, a good midi interface....I dont want to spend large to be stuck with an all-in-one. I want to use my lemur on other peoples machines, I want to change my midi interface, and my audio interface...being able to sell the older components (to anyone, not just folks with the same all-in-one as me) to go towards the upgrades. And repairs...etc.....all-in-one solutions nearly always turn b0unce off. the more money b0unce spends the more flexibility b0unce wants.sweetjesus wrote: i think im speaking with more of a business hat on when i say that the market doesnt want flexibility.
true that, the jazzmutant user library had me getting on with making music instantly. no max required, no niggildy piggildy effing around. Mackie emulation for controlling live's session view, and a quality, performable 4 track (and 14 CCs, 5 simultaniously - also a pretty unique manner in switiching CCs which lends itself to quality pattern creation) sequencer spitting midi into ableton. Saaaaah-weeeeeet. Why dont jazzmutant put videos of their templates up on youtube ?sweetjesus wrote: my point isnt what is technically better, but what's going to let people get on with making music.
sure, like I said...the templates available for use with the lemur will have you controlling your daw/instruments and sequencing straight-out-of-the-box (well I got everything I wanted straight away anyways)...today, or yesterday...or a couple of weeks ago...months ago. No max. If they made it any simpler...well, I just dont believe simpletons will want to spend 5k to do simple things with reduced options...or maybe they would, I dont know.sweetjesus wrote: im all for the next generation of delivering technology which is virtualization and premade environments.
id rather see a lemur be more like this: http://trinityaudiogroup.com/home.html than an apple multi touch tablet to be honest.
but its totally obvious we want different things from our technology and that's just down to preference, but i feel the money making will be in not having to get the common joe terribly involved with midiyoke, max or anything like that.
well, I think the price is only as stupid as your uses .... immediatly I used my lemur as a mackie controller and its addon the C4 - which is the same price as the lemur. Immediatly I used it as a hands on step sequencer, like a MD - I like sequencers that suck the melodies and rhythms out of you. I had the money saved for a MnM when I decided to keep saving and go for a lemur instead....allready my lemur is cheaper than the mackie controllers and a MnM. out-of-the-boxDj-Grobe wrote:Im building right now my own controller : )
Soon the videos !!
I dont pay 2500 stupid price for lemur jaja NEVERRRRRRRRRR!
Its gerat product.........but i prefer have second macbook pro for that money
: ) with lot of siths making ugly noises jajajaj
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and I sleep easy at night knowing that if I ask jazzmutant support a question, they wont have to come to this forum and ask machinate for help to solve their problems
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