Did you plan to build your own controller ??

chapelier fou · Post by **chapelier fou** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:40 pm

I could have done light feedback easily. I use a Doepfer CTM64 to send note messages. Add a MTC64 and you got light feedback.
The reasons why I don't do that :
-my machine is already done for a long time.
-Doepfer are a bit expensive.
-I prefer my monome.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:25 pm

no.

but the Make controller looks like a crazy fun way to play with max. I gotta retire, not enough time.

chapelier fou · Post by **chapelier fou** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:30 pm

Could you be more precise, please?

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:36 pm

no.

work is for chumps.

chapelier fou · Post by **chapelier fou** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:20 pm

I don't really speak English well. I just guess you are treating me like a fool, and that's really great from you.
I just wanted to help. Sorry, mister "I know everything, you are shit".
I thought it was a community here...

Thinking of it, you are right, it won't work without extra coding.

gomi · Post by **gomi** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:34 pm

julienb wrote:are you satisfied with your controller?
especially about clip triggering and the poor way provides by the actual Live version?

when will ableton give us more information about that ??

i have a lemur, does that count as building my own controller?

TITBAG · Post by **TITBAG** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:37 pm

chapelier fou wrote:I don't really speak English well. I just guess you are treating me like a fool, and that's really great from you.
I just wanted to help. Sorry, mister "I know everything, you are shit".
I thought it was a community here...

fucking LOL

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:39 pm

gomi wrote:
julienb wrote:are you satisfied with your controller?
especially about clip triggering and the poor way provides by the actual Live version?

when will ableton give us more information about that ??

i have a lemur, does that count as building my own controller?

I do to. Yes, it counts.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:20 pm

chapelier fou wrote:I don't really speak English well.

until now you had me fooled, your English has always been better than mine.

I just guess you are treating me like a fool, and that's really great from you.

chill. the joke was not on you, it was just me making a short reply, and a shorter reply to a question.

I'm not planning on a controller but the Make controller looks like a great companion to max, something to play with.

I just wanted to help.

not sure what you're asking for help with, guess I can look back, or not, you're kinda mean.

Sorry, mister "I know everything, you are shit".
I thought it was a community here...

excuse ME mister, you're the one starting in on the insults. think about it.

Thinking of it, you are right, it won't work without extra
coding.

not sure what you mean.

chill man, nobody's out to get you, we all get into bad moods, I take it you're in one.

TITBAG FTW

chapelier fou · Post by **chapelier fou** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:54 pm

Sorry for all this. It's really a pain to explain my thoughts in English, no kidding. I assure you I felt insulted, but I probably misunderstood, like I often do.
By extra coding I meant : as far as I know, midi clip feedback outputs a note only at the starting of the clip, so it would only flash the lights when it beggins or loops. So a pd or max or whatelse patch should run at the same time, for keeping notes on while playing.

julienb · Post by **julienb** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:36 am

nice words (except the misunderstanding ...but it is normal, it happens on international forum, no prob!)

Lemur? it counts for "building guys"! (for my opinion)
Lemur is a bit expensive for my musical budget, but one day... who knows..

the main subject here was: when ableton will give solutions about the feedback (i mean, the REAL feedback) from Live?
I guess, we won't have ANY informations for a long time

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:54 am

What feedback are you looking for? Hasn't Martin just hacked about every bit of info we can use for a controller?

julienb · Post by **julienb** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:02 am

Bjorn,
I meant "native feedback"
directly from live without any interfaces!

other feedback ideas that can be send on a request only or real-time:
- playing status (I know, it exists, but real infos like the little "clock" on each track)
- clip looped or not
etc

I just try to put further our desires... but indeed, Bjorn, a lot of things are already available

(as Ableton Live 7.03 for instance :p )

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:09 pm

julienb wrote:programming it seems to be very documented.

i'd like to see that documentation

As long as we are talking about designing ones own controllers, then full and easily readable instructions on how to multiplex and demux on a dev. board are lacking... There are walkthroughs on arduino.cc, but none are easily scalable.

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:11 pm

hoffman2k wrote:What feedback are you looking for? Hasn't Martin just hacked about every bit of info we can use for a controller?

yes. key word is "hacked", though. This isn't a high-bandwidth stream of easily parsable OSC. instead, it's obfuscated data, uncovered by techie users.

surely that's not an ideal situation, bjorn?

Did you plan to build your own controller ??

what are you waiting for build your controller?

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