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Re: Melodies

Post by nebulae » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:09 pm

wherever the fuck they're from, I think you get my fucking point

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Re: Melodies

Post by ChiDJ » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:10 pm

My Bad. No, Daft Punk was NOt what I had in my mind as their music is obviously melodic. (whether they just stole the melodies and dropped some sidechained beats is beyond the scope of this discussion) :lol:

Sorry for the confusion. Carry on.
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Re: Melodies

Post by smartass303 » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:39 pm

If you think of kompakt being JUST bleepy, you might wanna check out Justus Köhnke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0d_NdN1zoc

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Re: Melodies

Post by nebulae » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:51 pm

I hear nothing melodic in that Justus Köhnke youtube. It's horribly blippy and entirely devoid of any musical soul.

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Re: Melodies

Post by smartass303 » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:00 pm

nebulae wrote:I hear nothing melodic in that Justus Köhnke youtube. It's horribly blippy and entirely devoid of any musical soul.
whats wrong with your musical senses, dude?

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Re: Melodies

Post by 8O » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:03 pm

Kompakt with melodies, maybe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfYQxrw6_V4
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Re: Melodies

Post by nebulae » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:03 pm

smartass303 wrote:
nebulae wrote:I hear nothing melodic in that Justus Köhnke youtube. It's horribly blippy and entirely devoid of any musical soul.
whats wrong with your musical senses, dude?

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Nothing...I was just testing to see if you were actually listening to what I was saying, given that I didn't say Kompakt WAS all bleeps, merely that SOME stuff from Kompakt can sound as though it didn't have melody.

Now that you're paying attention, back to the conversation.

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Re: Melodies

Post by Nick the Zombie » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:05 pm

nebulae wrote:I hear nothing melodic in that Justus Köhnke youtube. It's horribly blippy and entirely devoid of any musical soul.
To each his/her own, but I definitely disagree. That track is gorgeous! I thought the textural melody worked really nicely with the zoom-in on the building as well. Pretty cool stuff.

EDIT: and now I read your message above :)

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Re: Melodies

Post by Lux Libra » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:13 pm

as we speak of Kompakt.
for me their golden years are over. they had a huge impact on what we call
clicks and cuts / minimal or whatever deadbeaten word you have. listen
to the early releases. some great treasures. from these days only a few of
the labels kept their quality: Background, Perlon, Telegraph to name a few IMO

one of my (when not THE) favourite on kompakt:
Closer Musik - One,Two,Three (no gravity) Timeless!
-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIzeGIGkC4k

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Re: Melodies

Post by smartass303 » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:17 pm

nebulae wrote:
smartass303 wrote:
nebulae wrote:I hear nothing melodic in that Justus Köhnke youtube. It's horribly blippy and entirely devoid of any musical soul.
whats wrong with your musical senses, dude?

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Nothing...I was just testing to see if you were actually listening to what I was saying, given that I didn't say Kompakt WAS all bleeps, merely that SOME stuff from Kompakt can sound as though it didn't have melody.

Now that you're paying attention, back to the conversation.
HAHA, you got me...

i think there is the right time and place for most of the stuff being produced nowadays. there are horrible parties with really boring music and people going nuts because its sooo *minimal* (read: no emotion at all, even tough there might be melodic parts involved).
it all relates to the context music is played in me thinks.


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Re: Melodies

Post by nebulae » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:22 pm

^ agreed!

Also, the track you posted is really nice and beautifully melodic. Couple that with Gui's latest release, and you can see that even Kompakt is heading in a very melodic direction. Which is cool :)

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Re: Melodies

Post by smartass303 » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:32 pm

nebulae wrote:^ agreed!

Also, the track you posted is really nice and beautifully melodic. Couple that with Gui's latest release, and you can see that even Kompakt is heading in a very melodic direction. Which is cool :)
yeah, but justus*s track is from 2005 album "Doppelleben"... an oldie.

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Re: Melodies

Post by Martyn » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:35 pm

I actually find a lot of Autechre's earlier stuff very melodic, it's melody spread across different sounds.

A good thing to try with that "cheesy melody" is to do similar, spread it across lots of different noises and places in the mix. One note a bleep, another a piano note or even a pitched drum, anything. I like cheesy melodies, especially over simple, childish chord patterns. It always cracks me up when a fuck off beat and bassline comes in and it all fits together into something light hearted, (sort of anti-dubstep :wink: )

This sort of thing is why I really miss old fashioned midi functions like "explode by key" which would split a melody track into different single midi tracks.

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Re: Melodies

Post by JoshR » Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:39 pm

Sometimes I'll do what Martyn said and write one melody and spread the midi file across a bunch of different sounds, then just erase certain notes in the various files. Sometimes it sounds like crap, other times it works out well.

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Re: Melodies

Post by Nick the Zombie » Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:35 am

JoshR wrote:Sometimes I'll do what Martyn said and write one melody and spread the midi file across a bunch of different sounds, then just erase certain notes in the various files. Sometimes it sounds like crap, other times it works out well.
Nice idea, will try this out along with starving student's suggestion of going crazy with tiny deletions in the arrange view.

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