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davec1 wrote:someone mentioned very realistic violence, referring mostly to the end of the movie.

That was another aspect that stood out for me a lot. there's untra-brutal movies with chainsaws and whatnot and the violence doesn't affect me. in children of men however it all seems so viscerally real. a motorbike crashing into a car gave me a much bigger flinching "ouch" effect than a hundred spectacular car explosions.

It just all looked so frigging real it was very impressive (which I think can be partly attributed to hollywood conventions being ignored: no, car crashes don't inevitably lead to a huge explosion. etc.)

LOFA wrote:

davec1 wrote:someone mentioned very realistic violence, referring mostly to the end of the movie.

That was another aspect that stood out for me a lot. there's untra-brutal movies with chainsaws and whatnot and the violence doesn't affect me. in children of men however it all seems so viscerally real. a motorbike crashing into a car gave me a much bigger flinching "ouch" effect than a hundred spectacular car explosions.

It just all looked so frigging real it was very impressive (which I think can be partly attributed to hollywood conventions being ignored: no, car crashes don't inevitably lead to a huge explosion. etc.)

+1

as an artist I was overwhelmed by the set design.

LOFA wrote:

subbasshead wrote:humans will inevitably become extinct at some stage
but it'll more likely be at the hands of the George W Bush of the future
rather than infertility...

I am not a supporter of GW in any way, but I (and I don't mean this specifically to you) am extremely worried by how so many people attribute the overall horrible condition of the world to one less than mediocre leader.

I just finished watching this movie myself. It inspired me greatly. It was the kick in the ass I needed to start working on my own activist art and projects. One thing that I was really impressed by was the fact that the British were portraid in very fascist manner. This was effctive to me because it emphasized that people in general abuse their power, though it is dicey to delegate whom has the eventual right to it.

There is no need to generalize about how horrible americans are either (I am not saying that you did ) yet much of the world seems to attribute both our success and our leaders actions with us. Many of us are just as fed up but do not have the freedom to speak under the safety blanket of non-us-citizenship nor great geographic distance. Having said that, I will reiterate that I am not nearly as radical/anti-bush as the bulk of young educated liberals in my town. The arrogant generalizations I hear from them have chased me to study politics on my own through universites and focus on more interesting things like books on C++.

Human nature is not recquired to adhere instictively (imo) to social norms, and there has never been a society (except perhaps that of the Indus Valley region, 4000 years ago) that did not come together out of a means of agression towards another group of people or through some level of slanted religious authority.

Right now we are at a point in time where people make large claims to understanding everything but making no action towards peace or progress. Even within the US the engineered division of the democrats and republicans has taken the absurd model of sports fanaticism and imposed it upon or social interactions and politcal forums.

Humans are not stupid. But we are for the most part profoundly lazy. I'm gonna go do something useful with my time. This movie was inspiring. Your quote was not something I found fault with so much as it was a means for me to initiate this passage. I respect your opinion, share it to an undetermined extent and I thank you

M. Bréqs wrote:I just saw Children of Men tonight. Fantastic.

Without giving it away, the last half hour rivals Saving Private Ryan in terms of realistic violence. Having served as a soldier in Bosnia back in the day, I have never seen a better rendition of modern street combat than I have in this movie. Children of Men really shows what it's like for the civvies caught in street fighting.

genshi wrote: Hi M. Bréqs, if you don't mind me asking, what side did you fight with back in Bosnia? I only ask because even to this day I am meeting people from over there that have widely varying views of what actually happened and I would love to hear it from all sides. You can PM me if you wish... but I really would like to know your experience there.

M. Bréqs wrote: As for my opinions on what happened there, who was responsible, etc. Well, they're my own and I don't share that with anybody I don't know personally, sorry.

M. Bréqs wrote:I'll just say that they take hyperbole to the extreme when it comes to the politics, and they clumsily charicaturize both the authorities and the anti-authority folks. Take the message with a grain of salt, as with most dark-future / apocalyptic fiction.