ableton, cycling 74.

[Machinesworking]

Hmmm. OSC has very little to do with midi. The 128 parameter limitation is within VSTs and as such has little do do with midi.

OK the italicized part here is what I'm talking about. Basically you make it sound like it's a limitation of VST, when you I think mean a limitation of Ableton's parameter implementation regarding VSTs!
and again what I'm saying is for whatever reason Ableton found it useful obviously early on, and pre VSTi/AU to implement MIDI automation of VST (and AU later) as 128. There is I'm sure a technical reason for this, as I don't see it being a frivolous choice.
I'm not trying to rain on people's parades etc. but this HAS to be some deep level coding, otherwise I think they would have changed it a while ago. Hey hopefully I'm wrong, or OSC allows them to work around their own MIDI implementation.

Again though, I don't see them working out OSC before they fix the MIDI limitations, but it's possible OSC fixes the MIDI implementation by sme sort of internal communication. Anyway off to bed.

[Tone Deft]

MW - they're totally, completely different things. OSC implementation is just sending the status of variables down an OSC pipe, it has nothing to do with midi. I think you're right about midi leading to the 128 parameter limitation and OSC is a way around all that.

between this and the election I just want to sleep for the next year until we get some freaking answers!!!

I gotta find the date this was first announced...

[julienb]

OSC ?
Organized Sex Community?


(I'm tired this morning ; sorry to disturb this Big discussion for which I agree and want to know more about C74+Ableton=Love!)

[Lo-Fi Massahkah]

Machinesworking... I don't really think we're disagreeing. I'm just not seeing how one thing (midi) has as immidiate connection to the other (OSC).

Cheers,
M