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Re: NI Maschine controlling Ableton just like APC40
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:44 am
by continuous
starving student wrote:can you turn off the lights on mashcine?
Haven't really messed with that... saw this thread today regarding that though...
http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... ght=lights
Re: NI Maschine controlling Ableton just like APC40
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:01 am
by dru
Hmm.. about that vid, what's so special about it? I could do that stuff with my padKontrol. Someone care to explain?
Re: NI Maschine controlling Ableton just like APC40
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:30 am
by bytheriver
This looks really cool, I love the idea of having the hardware control live and then having one of the 8 live channels running the maschine software, hitting a button and putting in live drum maschine loops via the hardware interface with no need to look at the screen.
Is it possible to re-asign the controls very easily? For instance, i wouldn't want a pan control, I'd want that to be an effect dry/wet or send channel.
Some way to use the hardware to select a rack, and have the 8 knobs map to the macros would be sweet, the macro names showing up on the LCD would be even sweeter.
Such a shame its 500 quid, I think i'd find it more useful in the studio than an APC40 since that looks more performance-minded. Maschine looks like it'd be pretty handy for both.
Re: NI Maschine controlling Ableton just like APC40
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:36 am
by Chang
Outputs unlimited yet? for Ver 2.0.01b --- I'm sure in 5 years.
Is the reverb as ridiculous as the Live one? ala 1989 Midiverb III?
Is the reverb only to outputs 1-2 like idiotic NI Battery?
Why?
Why?
Why?
Side bar alert sorry.
Max 4 Live? FUCK. You mean typical Cycling 74 lousy aliasing all over the place and clicking and popping dog shit wanna be circuit building that takes 10 years to learn before you finally blow your brains out? I know M4L will be good in the MIDI/cc control department but just couldn't help myself.
Shit I will take a paca.
Not even a Pacarana, just a paca before all this bullshit hype.
Re: NI Maschine controlling Ableton just like APC40
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:22 am
by BoimB son of BoB
+1 lol!
Chang wrote:Outputs unlimited yet? for Ver 2.0.01b --- I'm sure in 5 years.
Is the reverb as ridiculous as the Live one? ala 1989 Midiverb III?
Is the reverb only to outputs 1-2 like idiotic NI Battery?
Why?
Why?
Why?
Side bar alert sorry.
Max 4 Live? FUCK. You mean typical Cycling 74 lousy aliasing all over the place and clicking and popping dog shit wanna be circuit building that takes 10 years to learn before you finally blow your brains out? I know M4L will be good in the MIDI/cc control department but just couldn't help myself.
Shit I will take a paca.
Not even a Pacarana, just a paca before all this bullshit hype.
Re: NI Maschine controlling Ableton just like APC40
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:26 am
by Chang
BoimB son of BoB wrote:+1 lol!
Chang wrote:Outputs unlimited yet? for Ver 2.0.01b --- I'm sure in 5 years.
Is the reverb as ridiculous as the Live one? ala 1989 Midiverb III?
Is the reverb only to outputs 1-2 like idiotic NI Battery?
Why?
Why?
Why?
Side bar alert sorry.
Max 4 Live? FUCK. You mean typical Cycling 74 lousy aliasing all over the place and clicking and popping dog shit wanna be circuit building that takes 10 years to learn before you finally blow your brains out? I know M4L will be good in the MIDI/cc control department but just couldn't help myself.
Shit I will take a paca.
Not even a Pacarana, just a paca before all this bullshit hype.
lol + 10,000
Re: NI Maschine controlling Ableton just like APC40
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:28 am
by silveriofunk
trent reznor rocks!
Re: NI Maschine controlling Ableton just like APC40
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:26 pm
by Green Lemon
dru wrote:Hmm.. about that vid, what's so special about it? I could do that stuff with my padKontrol. Someone care to explain?
Yeah, I don't quite get it either...what makes the Maschine better than the PK for controlling Live?
Re: NI Maschine controlling Ableton just like APC40
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 4:53 pm
by ewistrand
Chang wrote:Is the reverb as ridiculous as the Live one? ala 1989 Midiverb III?
There's two different reverbs and two "spatial expanders". While there's undeniably better reverbs out there, these don't sound bad and are fairly light on the CPU.
Is the reverb only to outputs 1-2 like idiotic NI Battery?
No. There's two FX slots each for individual sounds, groups and masters. Plus, you can use an empty group as a multieffect, and use patterns to change the routing to the various effects in the multieffect.
Why?
Why not?
ew
Re: NI Maschine controlling Ableton just like APC40
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:56 pm
by continuous
Green Lemon wrote:dru wrote:Hmm.. about that vid, what's so special about it? I could do that stuff with my padKontrol. Someone care to explain?
Yeah, I don't quite get it either...what makes the Maschine better than the PK for controlling Live?
Well I suppose the displays which give visual feedback when controlling Live's sends, levels, etc are pretty helpful.
But I'm not here to sell Maschine so I'm jumping outta this thread.
peace
Re: NI Maschine controlling Ableton just like APC40
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:12 pm
by condra
lol
Re: NI Maschine controlling Ableton just like APC40
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:43 pm
by Green Lemon
continuous wrote:Green Lemon wrote:dru wrote:Hmm.. about that vid, what's so special about it? I could do that stuff with my padKontrol. Someone care to explain?
Yeah, I don't quite get it either...what makes the Maschine better than the PK for controlling Live?
Well I suppose the displays which give visual feedback when controlling Live's sends, levels, etc are pretty helpful.
But I'm not here to sell Maschine so I'm jumping outta this thread.
peace
That woud be very helpful, which is why I want to know if it works.
You suppose or you actually have experienced two way communication between Live and the Maschine?
Re: NI Maschine controlling Ableton just like APC40
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:20 pm
by continuous
Didn't mean for that to sound so sarcastic really. Vibe of the thread got kinda weird... anyhow, just a post to say that ya the interaction works for me though the basic template could use some additions like more sends, tempo control, etc.
A couple things I have noticed so far...
If you adjust a send with the mouse it will not be reflected on the Maschine's lcds though which I think does happen when using say a BCR right? When navigating the clip view horizontally it slides over only one track at a time...not in increments of 4 tracks at a time which would maybe be more ideal. One thing that's surprising is that follow actions are reflected on the pads in that the clip thats playing is blinking and the clip that will be playing when the follow action is executed also is blinking (the pads that is). As far as navigating the clips I haven't spent alot of time with that yet, but what I have experienced has been really fun and a lot less mousing.
I'm no expert and a shitty typist, plus my fingers are all thrashed from tiling our bathroom so I'll leave it at this but the vid they put up shows the LCDs working etc.
http://www.native-instruments.com/newre ... ontent=477
regards
Re: NI Maschine controlling Ableton just like APC40
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:32 am
by polyslax
Hmmm... I wasn't jonesing for maschine at all, but I'm thinking it's looking pretty cool now. Gonna hafta check that little mofo out.
Re: NI Maschine controlling Ableton just like APC40
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 1:05 pm
by Green Lemon
continuous wrote:Didn't mean for that to sound so sarcastic really. Vibe of the thread got kinda weird... anyhow, just a post to say that ya the interaction works for me though the basic template could use some additions like more sends, tempo control, etc.
A couple things I have noticed so far...
If you adjust a send with the mouse it will not be reflected on the Maschine's lcds though which I think does happen when using say a BCR right? When navigating the clip view horizontally it slides over only one track at a time...not in increments of 4 tracks at a time which would maybe be more ideal. One thing that's surprising is that follow actions are reflected on the pads in that the clip thats playing is blinking and the clip that will be playing when the follow action is executed also is blinking (the pads that is). As far as navigating the clips I haven't spent alot of time with that yet, but what I have experienced has been really fun and a lot less mousing.
I'm no expert and a shitty typist, plus my fingers are all thrashed from tiling our bathroom so I'll leave it at this but the vid they put up shows the LCDs working etc.
http://www.native-instruments.com/newre ... ontent=477
regards
thanks for the info, I appreciate it.