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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:06 pm
by optimistic
oh and if you want to have a proper fight about language come to Belgium!

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:11 pm
by Homebelly
leedsquietman wrote:I don't see Yanks telling the Brits how to talk.
You obviously don't watch much TV or go to the movies then
I could honestly care less about this whole topic.
If you ever meet me in real life i have the most fucked up vocabulary you will probably ever hear, i use Americanisms, Englishisms, NZisms, Newcastleisms, Liverpoolisms.. and even Ausisms..
I'm all fucked up
The one thing i don't do,, and this is the one aspect that this thread hasn't touched on, is adopt the accent of the country i am living in. That really chafes my ass.
I lived in the US, on and off, for about eight years, nothing annoyed me more than meeting Brits, Auzies or,,(worse) New Zealanders that had adopted horrible-horrible American accents...
My accent is a cross between NZ and North London..(init!.. nah wot ah meen??)
But that is down to me learning to speak in England, and learning to swear in NZ.
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:12 pm
by Homebelly
optimistic wrote:oh and if you want to have a proper fight about language come to Belgium!

Quebec or Louisiana are the place to go for real fire works...
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:14 pm
by Tone Deft
whaddya mean 'American accent'?!?! it's the rest of you that talk funny.
Madonna and her British accent, wtf is up with that?
I'm still convinced that Jude Law is an American, he nails the accent.
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:15 pm
by Johnny Beat
Lovely topic actually.
And what are your opinions on PIDGIN English languages all over the world then? Are they wrong

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:33 pm
by Machinate
poll time:
How many of you took the time to look it up in the dictionary?
How many of you just had an opinion and stated it as fact?
How many of you are just arguing for the argument?
If you DID look it up in the dictionary, how many of you were contradicted by the "opinion" of the dictionary and then disregarded that input?
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:36 pm
by Tone Deft
nope.
naturally.
blow me.
n/a.
I can has cookie now?
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:11 pm
by noisetonepause
Machinate wrote:How many of you took the time to look it up in the dictionary?
What do arbitrary collections of the pronunciations preferred by the elite of a given territory have to do with anything?
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:17 pm
by noisetonepause
logic_user99 wrote:It is pron. 'ROOT' if you speak properly. This 'ou' to 'ow' thing annoys the crap outta me; 'ou' is the same as 'oo'.
Please think that through again...
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:24 pm
by Angstrom
logic_user99 wrote:It is pron. 'ROOT' if you speak properly. This 'ou' to 'ow' thing annoys the crap outta me; 'ou' is the same as 'oo'.
out
lout
about
grout
stout
house
etc.
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:27 pm
by leedsquietman
No, most TV is garbage. And movies are overpriced.
Hugh Laurie as House has a good US accent and is as British as bowler hats, Queen Victoria and afternoon tea served on nice china.
Most people don't intentionally pick up an accent. Everyone tells me here, 'oh you have such a strong British accent' yet when I call home my family make fun of me and 'Yankee Doodle Macaroni' jokes etc. Obviously when immersed in something long enough, you will pick up bits and pieces. I'm from Yorkshire originally and proud, but I say 'elevator' instead of 'lift', I say 'diaper' instead of 'nappy' and whatever, that is just natural language acquisition and 'garbage' instead of 'rubbish' etc. It's not something I consciously did, but over the course of 8 years it happens.
People who fake it are ridiculous but the problem exists even in England, the excessive 'Mockney' isms that go on especially, people from suburban little counties trying to sound hard core London is nuts to me but loads of people are doing it. And now trying to sound Manc, as Manchester is the cool thing in the universe there.
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:51 pm
by last man on earth
shervington wrote:last man on earth wrote:"Americans are usually wrong"?
That's what people who watch television more than they meet people would think, I imagine...
"We invented the language"?
You may have invented it, but we gave it a dialect that made it understandable, hence, that is why you can understand us, but we can't always understand you

hahahahahahahaha
you avin a bubble barf mate. gave it dialect! jog on! go and read a jane austin book sonny!
oh, and if your going to speak the lingo bruv, learn to play football first! (and thats without 3 feet of pads!)
1. It's Jane Austen, not Austin, and as a Brit, you should know that. Here's some internet language for you: SELFPWN.
2. "you avin a bubble barf mate. gave it dialect! jog on! oh, and if your going to speak the lingo bruv, learn to play football first! (and thats without 3 feet of pads!)"
That is exactly what I mean, I don't understand any of that (except your reference to football). Thanks for illustrating my point.
BTW, I don't know if you realize it yet, but we don't wear pads when we play soccer. Granted, I think its stupid for the US to call it soccer when the rest of the world calls it football, but I'm not in charge of activity naming over here.
I leave you with a quote from Cousin Avi:
"Blagged? Speak English to me, Tony. I thought this country spawned the fucking language, and so far nobody seems to speak it."
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:03 am
by Pitch Black
A Fish Called Wanda:
Otto (Kevin Klein): You pompous, stuck-up, snot-nosed, English, giant, twerp, scumbag, dickhead, asshole!!!
Archie (John Cleese): How very interesting. You're a true vulgarian, aren't you?
Otto [enraged]: You're the vulgarian, you fuck!
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 12:39 am
by noisetonepause
last man on earth wrote:That is exactly what I mean, I don't understand any of that (except your reference to football). Thanks for illustrating my point.
How is it anyone else's fault that you don't speak English?
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:03 am
by last man on earth
I do speak english, but I don't include in my vocabulary your standard british slang.
Do you speak english? Maybe I'm hard to understand because of the sarcasm.