What do you think about BT?

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jdoty
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Post by jdoty » Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:25 pm

ok im done wasting my time on someone who doesnt even do anything interesting with live. Just because you throw a live sticker on your laptop doesnt make you a bad ass. Can some start a thread about someone who is a bad ass with ableton like coldcut or richie hawtin or anyone who does interesting stuff.

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Post by jdoty » Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:26 pm

pev wrote:
jdoty wrote:Name me one track of his where you were amazed by the beats.
Hip Hop Phenomenon?
Ride (as half of 2 phat cunts)
Fibonacci Sequence

Ok, so thats three not one but hey. Personally, I listen to music for more than _just_ beats though...

~Pev
sasha did the beats to ride 2 phat cunts = sasha and brian

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Post by jdoty » Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:27 pm

hip hop = is all sampled beats

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Post by jdoty » Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:29 pm

peace love and grease is really good to beat wise but guess what he didnt make them. Ok done now. even that 2 phat cunts track is weak.

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Post by ethios4 » Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:33 pm

jdoty wrote:ok im done wasting my time on someone who doesnt even do anything interesting with live.
Now that's valid, I think! Both times I've seen his "laptop symphony" I've been disappointed in many ways....how can someone so intelligent and cretive use Live in such a totally boring, non-creative, and "safe" way?

That was a rhetorical question, btw...

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Post by jb61264 » Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:04 pm

ethios4 wrote:
jdoty wrote:ok im done wasting my time on someone who doesnt even do anything interesting with live.
Now that's valid, I think! Both times I've seen his "laptop symphony" I've been disappointed in many ways....how can someone so intelligent and cretive use Live in such a totally boring, non-creative, and "safe" way?

That was a rhetorical question, btw...
The whole argument here was centered around jdoty remarking that BT has no talent...which is a ridiculous claim that I've already refuted quite easily. Just because someone isn't "doing something in Live" that he thinks is interesting isn't a basis for an argument that he doesn't have talent.

jdoty should just say, i don't like his music because it sounds boring to me or "it lacks any emotion in my opinion" and be done with it.

You can't say someone doesn't have any talent (or even worse compare them to P D"idiot") just because you don't like the music that they make. Bottom line, BT is VERY talented and has done many things in the industry that have affected different genres of music...AND from what I hear, he is working on a new software application that will make the stutter effect that he did manually much easier for the masses...although from the examples I've seen on Sampler, it seems as though you could automate some actions to create the same effect too.
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Post by leisuremuffin » Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:11 pm

jdoty wrote:hip hop = is all sampled beats

wrong.




.l;m.
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Post by pev » Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:35 pm

leisuremuffin wrote:
jdoty wrote:hip hop = is all sampled beats
wrong.
.l;m.
Well, you get guys talking over the top of the sampled beats too...

;-)

~Pev

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Post by jdoty » Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:51 pm

Hip Hop Phenomenon = sampled beats sorry but its true.

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Post by jb61264 » Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:55 pm

jdoty wrote:Hip Hop Phenomenon = sampled beats sorry but its true.
You have an issue with sampling?...you obviously don't use Simpler or Sampler in Ableton Live then do you.
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Post by jdoty » Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:59 pm

jb61264 wrote:
jdoty wrote:Hip Hop Phenomenon = sampled beats sorry but its true.
You have an issue with sampling?...you obviously don't use Simpler or Sampler in Ableton Live then do you.
i dont mind samplling as long as you make it sound different. I dont understand why people just use sampled drum patterns that have been used over and over again. I like sampling when it is done right chopped and spliced and goes with the dynamics of the track.

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Post by jb61264 » Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:17 pm

jdoty wrote:
jb61264 wrote:
jdoty wrote:Hip Hop Phenomenon = sampled beats sorry but its true.
You have an issue with sampling?...you obviously don't use Simpler or Sampler in Ableton Live then do you.
i dont mind samplling as long as you make it sound different. I dont understand why people just use sampled drum patterns that have been used over and over again. I like sampling when it is done right chopped and spliced and goes with the dynamics of the track.
So please explain to me how Hip Hop Phenomenon is sampled beats that isn't chopped and spliced or goes with the dynamics of the track.
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Post by Approach » Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:18 pm

When I listen to BT's music I feel the same way that I felt when I saw the new star wars. BT is too CG. Also, his haircuts sometimes make me angry.

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Post by jdoty » Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:24 pm

jb61264 wrote:
jdoty wrote:
jb61264 wrote: You have an issue with sampling?...you obviously don't use Simpler or Sampler in Ableton Live then do you.
i dont mind samplling as long as you make it sound different. I dont understand why people just use sampled drum patterns that have been used over and over again. I like sampling when it is done right chopped and spliced and goes with the dynamics of the track.
So please explain to me how Hip Hop Phenomenon is sampled beats that isn't chopped and spliced or goes with the dynamics of the track.
i can tell their is no winning with you considering you use rmx and reason. its all about battery.

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Post by jb61264 » Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:49 pm

jdoty wrote:
jb61264 wrote:
jdoty wrote: i dont mind samplling as long as you make it sound different. I dont understand why people just use sampled drum patterns that have been used over and over again. I like sampling when it is done right chopped and spliced and goes with the dynamics of the track.
So please explain to me how Hip Hop Phenomenon is sampled beats that isn't chopped and spliced or goes with the dynamics of the track.
i can tell their is no winning with you considering you use rmx and reason. its all about battery.
not sure I follow you...you mean Native Instruments Battery "Sampling" Software??? which comes with over 12GB's worth of 23,000 professional drum samples???

what's your point?
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