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Post by mikemc » Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:01 pm

SubQ wrote:I feel genuinely sick.
american culture is great. I love it - Jazz, Pynchon, Walt Whitman, Robert Johnson, Ali and so on. But one must agree that the average american citizen is one of the dumber asses among developed (and not so) countries.
On the "contraire", Bush wouldn't be reelected.

Anyone knows about the dreadful external politics of US trough the last 100 years. Rumsfeld doctrine, the corrupted military industry politics, environmental issues, etc, reflects the alienated majority, who doesn't give a shit about the world they're living, only to money, guns and such.

Of course there's always exceptions. But in general I think the americans eventually will pay for what they are. Anti americanism throughout the world is the proof of that.
I think, if there is anything [less] edit, more, I meant .. lol... than a snicker to gain from this, given rihk's post and yours and others, maybe it is this:

Lots of Americans don't care much for other Americans for some of the same reasons non-Americans who are anti-American don't care for them.

There are people all over the world who affect one another's lives that don't know much about one another, even so, when we get together, we can do amazingly great things.
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Post by nebulae » Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:04 pm

mikemc wrote:I think, if there is anything more than a snicker to gain from this...
You had to go there, didn't you...you had to say Snickers...

For the last time, Tone Deft and I are NOT GAY LOVERS. Geez...

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Post by Tone Deft » Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:05 pm

nebulae wrote:
mikemc wrote:I think, if there is anything more than a snicker to gain from this...
You had to go there, didn't you...you had to say Snickers...

For the last time, Tone Deft and I are NOT GAY LOVERS. Geez...
:cry:


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Post by lesterdiamond » Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:41 pm

this one is prolly gonna be up for a minute
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Post by nebulae » Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:47 pm

Tone Deft wrote:
nebulae wrote:
mikemc wrote:I think, if there is anything more than a snicker to gain from this...
You had to go there, didn't you...you had to say Snickers...

For the last time, Tone Deft and I are NOT GAY LOVERS. Geez...
:cry:


On to a new cliche'? Maybe I'll play the forum christian for a while.
Change your signature to "Listen to Fox News."

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Post by rhedcerulean » Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:04 am

I love those sorts of comedy news bits.

come on theres stupid people everywere.
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Post by JACKAL & HYDE » Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:25 am

nebulae wrote:
motormouth wrote: who came up with the operating system you're using on your computer? who came up with youtube? Google? The Internet itself? It's predecessor, the Arpanet? Who came up with the lightbulb, the telephone, mass-produced the automobile, who harness ac/dc electrical currents, who came up eith the first nuclear reactor, uhhh where did jazz, blues, rock n roll, hip hop, house, techno music etc etc etc etc etc etc come from. Who helped save you Europeans from Hitler and then held Stalin and the communist u.s.s.r. at bay for the rest of the century.....who came up with a vaccine for smallpox and so many other medical advances....???
1. Windows XP - Indian software developers hired by Gates, on H1-B visas;

2. YouTube - an Asian dude, an Indian dude, and their white figurehead used to get funding;

3. Arpanet - inspired by fear of Russian sputnik launch;

4. Internet - Lawrence G. Roberts, Leonard Kleinrock, Robert Kahn, Vinton Cerf, and Al Gore; in other words, a Christian, a WASP, a Jew, another WASP, and a fat dude trying to save the world from global warming.

5. Lightbulb - Sir Humphry Davy, an English physician, and then British scientist Warren de la Rue (with a french name).

6. Telephone - Antonio Meucci, Johann Philipp Reis, Alexander Graham Bell and Elisha Gray, amongst others, have all been credited; in other words, an Italian, a German, a Scot (Bell was born in Edinburgh), and an American.

7. Automobile - Ferdinand Verbiest, a member of a Jesuit mission in China, may have built the first steam powered car around 1672; François Isaac de Rivaz, a Swiss inventor, designed the first internal combustion engine.

8. Mass Production - Ford was first to introduce mass production in recent times, the idea was first developed in Venice several hundred years earlier, where ships were mass-produced using pre-manufactured parts, and assembly lines.

9. Electricity - Franklin came up with it; Galvani (Italian), Volta (Italian), Faraday (British), Ampere (French...hmm the "amp" sounds familiar), and Ohm (German...hmm ohm also sounds familiar) all took the ball and ran with it.

10. Enrico Fermi (Italian) and Leo Szilard (Hungarian Jew) were the first to build a nuclear pile and demonstrate a controlled chain reaction.

11. Jazz - Jazz originated in New Orleans ,Louisiana, United States at around the start of the 20th century. Born out of a blend of African American music styles.

12. Blues - evolved in the United States in the communities of former African slaves, from spirituals, praise songs, field hollers, shouts, and chants.

13. Rock and roll - began to emerge as a defined musical style in America in the late 1940s as an offshoot of both the rhythm and blues music, or R&B, of African American culture.

14. Hip hop - both a music genre and a cultural movement developed in urban communities starting in the 1970s, predominantly by African Americans and Latinos – primarily those of Puerto Rican ethnic heritage.

15. House - an underground spot in Chicago, attended primarily by gay black men, became known as "The Warehouse". The resident DJ at The Warehouse, Frankie Knuckles, mixed classic disco, European synthpop, new wave, industrial and punk recordings. Club regulars referred to his mixes as house music.

16. Techno - came from Detroit, heavily influenced by electronic sounds of Giorgio Moroder (yet another Italian), Kraftwerk (Germans), and Tangerine Dream (more Germans), among others.

17. Etc. etc. - Et cetera is an expression that means "and other things". It is taken directly from the Latin expression.

18. Hitlet and Stalin - ut was called World War II because there were many countries at war, not just us.

19. Smallpox vaccine - David Jenner, while at medical school in London.


My point here is that no one country can take credit for anything entirely. And it's precisely because of statements like yours that people think we're stupid.

Motormouth, indeed.

Come fucking on bro... Get real...


1. Windows XP - Indian software developers hired by Gates, on H1-B visas;

^Right...

2. YouTube - an Asian dude, an Indian dude, and their white figurehead used to get funding;

^Who cares...

3. Arpanet - inspired by fear of Russian sputnik launch;

^Dont know what your really talking about here, but if your saying NASA's full of shit your high.

4. Internet - Lawrence G. Roberts, Leonard Kleinrock, Robert Kahn, Vinton Cerf, and Al Gore; in other words, a Christian, a WASP, a Jew, another WASP, and a fat dude trying to save the world from global warming.

^ Ignorant Biggot you obviously are with that language.... - 50 Intelligence points on IQ scale for you.

5. Lightbulb - Sir Humphry Davy, an English physician, and then British scientist Warren de la Rue (with a french name).

^ Yea but Edison made thier crap a reality with a 17 hour burn.... and led to what we have today..

6. Telephone - Antonio Meucci, Johann Philipp Reis, Alexander Graham Bell and Elisha Gray, amongst others, have all been credited; in other words, an Italian, a German, a Scot (Bell was born in Edinburgh), and an American.

^Yeeeaaaa, Americans are all immigrants. And Bell perfected that which sucked at the time to give us what we have today.

7. Automobile - Ferdinand Verbiest, a member of a Jesuit mission in China, may have built the first steam powered car around 1672; François Isaac de Rivaz, a Swiss inventor, designed the first internal combustion engine.

^Yea, and the gas powered car in mass production?

8. Mass Production - Ford was first to introduce mass production in recent times.

^ First thing your dead right on, end of sentence.

9. Electricity - Franklin came up with it; Galvani (Italian), Volta (Italian), Faraday (British), Ampere (French...hmm the "amp" sounds familiar), and Ohm (German...hmm ohm also sounds familiar) all took the ball and ran with it.

^Yea Franklin and that stupid ass "ground/lightning rod" idea he had....

10. Enrico Fermi (Italian) the first to build a nuclear pile and demonstrate a controlled chain reaction

^Pfffft yea at Columbia University, N.Y. (1939-1942) and the University of Chicago afterwards.. Ironic with your (Smallpox vaccine - David Jenner, while at medical school in "London") comment...

11. Jazz - Jazz originated in New Orleans ,Louisiana, United States at around the start of the 20th century. Born out of a blend of African American music styles.

^Your point?

12. Blues - evolved in the United States in the communities of former African slaves, from spirituals, praise songs, field hollers, shouts, and chants.

^Again the point?

13. Rock and roll - began to emerge as a defined musical style in America in the late 1940s as an offshoot of both the rhythm and blues music, or R&B, of African American culture.

^3rd time, fckn point? ? ? And Leo Fender (American) invented the fucking Electric Guitar, so again, whats your dumb ass point here? ? ?

14. Hip hop - both a music genre and a cultural movement developed in urban communities starting in the 1970s, predominantly by African Americans and Latinos – primarily those of Puerto Rican ethnic heritage.

^LOL... So not only are you unamerican with this rhetoric but your obviously ANTI white to the enth degree... I mean whats your fucking point here? Black african americans arent American?

15. House - an underground spot in Chicago, attended primarily by gay black men, became known as "The Warehouse". The resident DJ at The Warehouse, Frankie Knuckles, mixed classic disco, European synthpop, new wave, industrial and punk recordings. Club regulars referred to his mixes as house music.

^I own a bird that doesnt even give a fuck about this...

16. Techno - came from Detroit, heavily influenced by electronic sounds of Giorgio Moroder (yet another Italian), Kraftwerk (Germans), and Tangerine Dream (more Germans), among others.

^It snows alot in Canada...

17. Etc. etc. - Et cetera is an expression that means "and other things". It is taken directly from the Latin expression.

^LSD on sale now on myspace...

18. Hitlet and Stalin - ut was called World War II because there were many countries at war, not just us.

^3rd grade history...

19. Smallpox vaccine - David Jenner, while at medical school in London.

^Yet an American...
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Post by JACKAL & HYDE » Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:57 am

And when you're done being the ignorant starbucks no whip 3 shot 1 pump non fat mocha java jackass I know you are, why dont you give African Americans credit where credits are due beyond stupid ass "House music".

Like:

Lewis Latimer African American (1848–1928) invented the carbon filament for the first real light bulb.

Granville T. Woods African American (1856–1910) invented the train-to-station communication system.

Garrett Morgan African American (1877–1963) invented the gas mask while fighting germans.

Otis Boykin African American (1920–1982) invented the electronic control devices for guided missiles AND the pacemaker.

Morgan Garret African American - (March 4, 1877 - August 27, 1963) inventor of the modern traffic signal.

Dr. Charles Richard Drew African American (June 3, 1904 - April 1, 1950) was an American medical doctor and surgeon who started the idea of a blood bank and a system for the long-term preservation of blood plasma (he found that plasma kept longer than whole blood).


Thanks...


From an American no doubt..




Of course Robert Moog is yet another white "American Dummy" you forgot to add to your racist stupidass/rant....
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Post by peeddrroo » Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:16 am

right, but tell me, what did the americans invent in the 18th century? heh? were they sleeping or what?

right, this discussion is pointless. of course there are A LOT of non stupid americans, and A LOT of stupid french and european and you name it.
unfortunately, this movie was shot in the US.

but it's funny nonetheless.

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Post by rikhyray » Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:33 am

That is real fun to read. Someone against his own will and intentions confirms the stereotype. The difference, those on the video were handpicked, selected and edited. Here you have to read a bit carefully to see the same pattern, mix of ignorance and arrogance.
Though Bangladeshi a racists !!!???!!!!!???, - amazing statement that could secure a place in American are not stupid hall of fame.
USA is as nice, good as many other countries and one I like even more then other. I played in lots of places on this planet and must admit that as far as the knowledge of geography and history is concerned Norteamericanos are truly "challenged" , it is only cultural elite that is up to the world standard. And obviously most of the members of this forum are part of that elite and in this way not really representative.

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Post by MrYellow » Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:36 am

smutek wrote:
Tone Deft wrote:The north isn't dripping with racism and hate like the south
Sure it is. More people in the North keep it to themselves though. They are only racist behind closed doors and with their "own kind".
Yeah sounds like the north is more like Australia with it's racism, except
now all the hate politics have brought out a move away from multi-
culturalism towards a more integrational ideology and demonising of
Muslims. While aboriginals cop it from all directions but from most people
it's an indoor 'with their own kind" thing. Think this kind of racism exists
everywhere, it's strange... because if you compare how people in the south,
north and Australia react to pretty similar kinda racist events there is still
differences in how we react. Like white people in the south have long learnt
that it's ok. While those in the north have a more detached involvement
because of the use of black fighters in the civil war, their various leaders
views and just having less plantations..... While Australia we've generally
covered up what happened.... Most people don't realise the scale of the
massacres. A small but good percentage of white people in small towns will
know where massacre sites are and a bit of Aboriginal folk law or the like.
It's probably more similar to the situation of the Aboriginal people in
America then the black slaves.

We however declared the country "Terra Nullius" to say it was empty land to
be taken at will. So there was never a war declared but that has left the
same situation where a kind of penance is paid in the form of special
welfare allowances, tax breaks and things like that. We probably have more
Aboriginal people percentage wise in Australia so we're probably more
aware of Aboriginal social problems and see there is nothing ever done
about it (whether your point of view be "lock them all up" or "lets help
them") which leads to racist resentment. Which leads to greater social
problems.... rinse repeat...

Long history here of racist politics for short term reaction to printed public opinion.

-Ben


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Post by nebulae » Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:09 pm

rikhyray wrote:That is real fun to read. Someone against his own will and intentions confirms the stereotype. The difference, those on the video were handpicked, selected and edited. Here you have to read a bit carefully to see the same pattern, mix of ignorance and arrogance.
Though Bangladeshi a racists !!!???!!!!!???, - amazing statement that could secure a place in American are not stupid hall of fame.
USA is as nice, good as many other countries and one I like even more then other. I played in lots of places on this planet and must admit that as far as the knowledge of geography and history is concerned Norteamericanos are truly "challenged" , it is only cultural elite that is up to the world standard. And obviously most of the members of this forum are part of that elite and in this way not really representative.
LOL, go easy on him...he's from Florida...he barely knows how to put a sentence together.

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Post by forge » Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:10 pm

Tone Deft wrote:
peeddrroo wrote:how is geography tuition in US schools?
cause it seems that americans really have a problem with it.
not only the lower class ppl.

i guess it's got a little to do with US "ego" too. the rest of the world doesn't count much (that's the way i feel it anyway).
but then, there's this girl who doesn't think of the USofA as a nation that begins with a U, or this guy that says Utah.
it might have to do with geography lessons still.
I think the thing about that is that the US is physically isolated from the rest of the world, we don't get the easy exposure to other countries, Europe is just some place 'over there.' We have Canadian exposure but they're so like americans it doesn't count. Then there's Mexico, which is looked at like a bad neighborhood nobody wants to drive through, or they only to there for MTV party spring break.

Americans ARE stupid, and we have the bomb.
nah Australia is as isolated as it gets and you'd probably be quite amazed at how universally Australians know about other countries and geography

in Australia it's always been from a slight inferiority complex, and a desire to check out the big wide world out there - you still get a little of it - "this comes from overseas so it must be right" - on TV, you know, "experts" being called in from abroad etc

whereas with America it does seem to be a bit more self importance - "the world series" baseball is only played in the US!! :lol:


I saw an American comic on TV here once comparing the 2 countries and he said Australians kind of looked out at the world through a telescope, kind of fascinated with the world out there, while Americans had taken that telescope and turned it around - he said "I even almost expected to get off the plane and people were really tiny" :lol:

anyway, or course these are big stupid generalisations, but it seems to be a fairly universal thing with geography - even well educated Americans who could talk about anything else till the cows come home seem to fall short on international geography - it just doesnt seem like they really taught it in US schools, just US geography, because you all know where your states are

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Post by nebulae » Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:13 pm

JACKAL & HYDE wrote:Come fucking on bro... Get real...
Also, thanks for trying to make coherent arguments while calling me names. That made you come across real cultured and totally un-American.

*more hugs and kisses*
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