Apple's iPad - Lemur killer?

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Re: Apple's iPad - Lemur killer?

Post by LoopStationZebra » Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:41 pm

dum wrote:
Uber ultra fail.

Blah. Blah. Blah. Fucking Blah.

The lemur is a butt ugly piece of kit that makes me eyes hurt and the monome is a work of art that will no doubt grace the hallowed halls of MoMA.

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Re: Apple's iPad - Lemur killer?

Post by dum » Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:45 pm

ya, kool, trolling is fun.
I got no beef with the monome either, I use one almost daily.

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Re: Apple's iPad - Lemur killer?

Post by LoopStationZebra » Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:46 pm

dum wrote: the iPad, like the bcr2000, will be up to certain performance tasks, like clip launching - no doubt about that. But it will be just as disposable and replaceable as the bcr2000. because you'd have to be living in fairyland to think a frequently gigging musician who uses a bcr2000 doesn't have to replace them from time to time. Not so for Kenton controllers, which are also more 'performable' imo btw... much better action on those dials for creative sweeps and such.

says the *b0unce* tard who hasn't so much as fingered the iPad but swears it's going to be just a toy.

better action for creative sweeps. God that's priceless. In fact, that needs to be my new sig.

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Re: Apple's iPad - Lemur killer?

Post by dum » Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:47 pm

:?:

I've used the iTouch apps, AND the lemur. Which is more than most of the people pontificating on this issue =)
And again - I use the bcr2k for certain tasks, and the kentons for more performance orientated shit.


Let me guess, you're commenting with gusto but you haven't used a kenton control freak either ?

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Re: Apple's iPad - Lemur killer?

Post by delicioso » Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:51 pm

LoopStationZebra wrote:
dum wrote: the iPad, like the bcr2000, will be up to certain performance tasks, like clip launching - no doubt about that. But it will be just as disposable and replaceable as the bcr2000. because you'd have to be living in fairyland to think a frequently gigging musician who uses a bcr2000 doesn't have to replace them from time to time. Not so for Kenton controllers, which are also more 'performable' imo btw... much better action on those dials for creative sweeps and such.

says the *b0unce* tard who hasn't so much as fingered the iPad but swears it's going to be just a toy.

better action for creative sweeps. God that's priceless. In fact, that needs to be my new sig.

lol.
Too late, LoopSZ, it already is my new sig. :lol:

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Re: Apple's iPad - Lemur killer?

Post by 8O » Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:52 pm

dum wrote:80
sure, it's going to be fine for alot of people. You're missing the point of my post though.


before I check your link, I'm gonna guess it's daft punk picture of their setup - right ?
the iPad, like the bcr2000, will be up to certain performance tasks, like clip launching - no doubt about that. But it will be just as disposable and replaceable as the bcr2000. because you'd have to be living in fairyland to think a frequently gigging musician who uses a bcr2000 doesn't have to replace them from time to time. Not so for Kenton controllers, which are also more 'performable' imo btw... much better action on those dials for creative sweeps and such.
I'm not 100% what your exact point was, but mine was that many users don't need the built-like-a-tank qualities of the Lemur, something like an iPad, which will probably have the same build quality as a macbook/pro, will suffice for lots of on-stage use. Some really demanding users will definitely still need something like a Lemur, but a huge section (the majority?) of previous customer base won't.
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Re: Apple's iPad - Lemur killer?

Post by LoopStationZebra » Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:53 pm

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Too late, LoopSZ, it already is my new sig. :lol:

BASTARD! lol.

When you're done with that sig I'd like to borrow it. Christ. We NEED t-shirts made with that slogan.

BETTER ACTION FOR CREATIVE SWEEPS.

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creeeeeeeeeaaaatiiiivveeee swwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepps.

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Re: Apple's iPad - Lemur killer?

Post by dum » Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:54 pm

delicioso wrote:
davepermen wrote:one thing: it won't be multitouch most likely. it will be dualtouch most likely. like the iphone/ipod touch, like about any multitouch screens on this world.
Please don't spread false rumors about something you know nothing about. You've obviously never used an iphone/ipod touch.
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btw delicioso, how often have you used a Lemur ?

I'll take your silence as a ''Never'' which is very amusing considering your post above

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Re: Apple's iPad - Lemur killer?

Post by dum » Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:55 pm

8O wrote:
dum wrote:80
sure, it's going to be fine for alot of people. You're missing the point of my post though.


before I check your link, I'm gonna guess it's daft punk picture of their setup - right ?
the iPad, like the bcr2000, will be up to certain performance tasks, like clip launching - no doubt about that. But it will be just as disposable and replaceable as the bcr2000. because you'd have to be living in fairyland to think a frequently gigging musician who uses a bcr2000 doesn't have to replace them from time to time. Not so for Kenton controllers, which are also more 'performable' imo btw... much better action on those dials for creative sweeps and such.
I'm not 100% what your exact point was, but mine was that many users don't need the built-like-a-tank qualities of the Lemur, something like an iPad, which will probably have the same build quality as a macbook/pro, will suffice for lots of on-stage use. Some really demanding users will definitely still need something like a Lemur, but a huge section (the majority?) of previous customer base won't.
yes. and I agree with that. I've said as much throughout my posts in this thread. My analogy was about knowing what you need, and saving your criticisms accordingly.
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Re: Apple's iPad - Lemur killer?

Post by LoopStationZebra » Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:57 pm

I like the fact that you can no longer even buy the Lemur at the online store anymore, lol. Fuck me. Something about frauds or some such shite. Christ. Who gives a fuck? It's like these guys are just begging to fail, lol.

meh. Whatever. What does a pricedrop matter when the only places you can actually buy the thing are no name retailers like 'Bill and Phil's HiFi shop' that seem to always have their answering machine on?

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Re: Apple's iPad - Lemur killer?

Post by LoopStationZebra » Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:58 pm

dum wrote:
yes. and I agree with that. I've said as much throughout my posts in this thread. My analogy was about knowing what you need, and saving your criticisms accordingly.
But you have no idea of the durability or lack thereof when it comes to the iPad. You're totally talking out of your arse. :lol:
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Re: Apple's iPad - Lemur killer?

Post by delicioso » Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:01 pm

dum wrote:btw delicioso, how often have you used a Lemur ?

I'll take your silence as a ''Never'' which is very amusing considering your post above
I've never used the Lemur although I've seen it in action up close many times and know enough about it to say the things I've said in this thread. I don't spread false rumors about it though in order to justify things like my investment in an overpriced product which may become obsolete by a newer, more affordable, and very promising device.

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Re: Apple's iPad - Lemur killer?

Post by dum » Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:13 pm

@landrvr1
I'm familiar with the build quality of the iTouch, and the responsiveness of the apps. So I am in a much better position than you to make educated guesses and meaningful comments on this topic. If anyones talking out of their arse its you amongst others. As for humourous trolling, you fail in that respect also. You try and sponge from the best, but it's already old by the time you're peddling it =)
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dum wrote:btw delicioso, how often have you used a Lemur ?

I'll take your silence as a ''Never'' which is very amusing considering your post above
I've never used the Lemur although I've seen it in action up close many times and know enough about it to say the things I've said in this thread. I don't spread false rumors about it though in order to justify things like my investment in an overpriced product which may become obsolete by a newer, more affordable, and very promising device.
case closed
as for seeing it in action...online by any chance ?
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Re: Apple's iPad - Lemur killer?

Post by dum » Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:20 pm

as for jazzmutant's online store being offline:
"Due to a number of fraudulent purchases we have had to temporarily close our online store. We have taken this decision to protect both ourselves and you, the customer, from fraudulent behaviour. " as it says where their online store used to be.

You can still get it at audiomidi.com...a known and respected retailer. There's probably others, couldn't be arsed looking it up just to prove you wrong though. So, like, shit attempts at trolling aside - you're being pretty disingenuous.
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Re: Apple's iPad - Lemur killer?

Post by delicioso » Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:27 pm

dum wrote:
delicioso wrote:
dum wrote:btw delicioso, how often have you used a Lemur ?

I'll take your silence as a ''Never'' which is very amusing considering your post above
I've never used the Lemur although I've seen it in action up close many times and know enough about it to say the things I've said in this thread. I don't spread false rumors about it though in order to justify things like my investment in an overpriced product which may become obsolete by a newer, more affordable, and very promising device.
case closed
as for seeing it in action...online by any chance ?
No dum dum. You're not getting why people are laughing at you. :lol: What people like you and daveperman are doing is making false statements with absolutely no basis, such as how iphone is not true multitouch and only dual touch at best and how the ipad will be just as limited, and how the ipad will not be suitable for live performance because it's not built durable enough. What those of us excited about the ipad are doing is making PREDICTIONS based on FACTS. Facts that you can look up online even. And I've seen the Lemur in action up close IN PERSON many times. But anyone can look up information about any of these devices to know actual facts based in real life, such as how the Lemur's screen resolution is only 800x600 while the iPad is 1024x768, for example.

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