Live 8's new warping... good for you or bad for you?

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Live 8's new warping... good for you or bad for you?

Post by Jekblad » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:28 pm

The new pro algorithm is awesome, no doubt, but i'm thinking more of the reverse in which you have control over moving.

In live 8 you move the audio instead of moving the timeline. pretty bold move....


Personally it makes sense to me, is anybody afraid of a new learning curve on this one? Should there be a button to flip it to "old skool"?
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Post by Martyn » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:33 pm

Good for me, I think it's a great move, it should make it much easier to visualise timings.

I'm really used to the current method but it has to be said that it took me a fair while to get my head around it.

Really looking forward to trying it out, its far more logical.

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Post by sparklepuff » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:35 pm

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Post by contakt321 » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:36 pm

I am not sure yet, but I am certainly curious and excited.

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Post by decrepitude » Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:50 pm

Moving beats instead of markers is absolutely a HUGE improvement! And it will be highly useful.

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Post by hoffman2k » Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:11 pm

If you think about it, its just the same. But in the old school method you were stretching the sounds with your mind. In Live 8 you could just grab a beat and place it where to should be, instead of moving the time to the beat.
Seeing what you are actually doing can only make it easier.
And you're not limited to the length of your sample. If you want to add a bit of silence to the beginning or the end, you can.

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Post by paradiddle » Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:18 pm

Makes more sense to me even though I'm quite comfortable with the current method.

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Post by kb420 » Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:19 pm

decrepitude wrote:Moving beats instead of markers is absolutely a HUGE improvement! And it will be highly useful.

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Post by stringtapper » Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:26 pm

hoffman2k wrote:...in the old school method you were stretching the sounds with your mind.
This should be the first CovOps M4L patch. A device allowing you to stretch sounds with your mind.
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Post by Tarekith » Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:29 pm

And even better, with a key command held while double-clicking, it places a marker before and after where you click too. No more needing to double click three times to move one drum hit.

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Post by Coupe70 » Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:29 pm

somewhere on the forum i read that you can switch to
the old behaviour if all these new things are too confusing
for you...

hopefully i can switch off this damn midi thing they invented
with live 4, too... :wink:
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Post by Geezus » Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:31 pm

Yeah but can you still do that glitch sound where you move two markers real close to each other to make one hit super stretched?

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Post by noisetonepause » Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:35 pm

Geezus wrote:Yeah but can you still do that glitch sound where you move two markers real close to each other to make one hit super stretched?
Yeah, only now you can see what you're doing.

Also, you can warp to triplets properly now.
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Post by Jekblad » Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:35 pm

@geezus i think so. I read that somewhere in the first few hours after live 8 was released.

@tarekith awesome. just awesome.

@Coupe70 i think it's under "File- Close Live set" 8)
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Post by abletoff » Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:32 am

Tarekith wrote: No more needing to double click three times to move one drum hit.
This is what I do all the time, thinking that I'm doing it wrong and should RTFM, but it was a *design failure*! No more shame to me :)
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