[awi][gck] b7 & b8 - library update, index fails

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:32 pm

a selection of screens from the library update.
Corrupted download, or some other cause?

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:38 pm

mine worked fine, does seem like a corrupted download.

Lovin Teris · Post by **Lovin Teris** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:43 pm

I got them too.

db · Post by db » Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:47 pm

Hi Angstrom,

It looks more like a database problem. Did Live crash or did you have a second instance of Live open during the Installation?

What Live Packs had been installed in your Library prior to this installation?

The last message box says that the Live 8 Beta Library was only partially installed. Did you get any error messages or prompts to replace files during the installation?

I'd recommend to set the Live Library to an empty folder and see if the Live Pack Installation is then successful.

Daniel

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:01 pm

db wrote:Hi Angstrom,

It looks more like a database problem. Did Live crash or did you have a second instance of Live open during the Installation?

live did not crash and I did not have a second instance open

What Live Packs had been installed in your Library prior to this installation?

as listed in the Preferences -> Library

Analog
Basics
Drum Machines
EIC2
Electric
Live 7 lessons
Live 7.2 library
Sampler
Session Drums

The last message box says that the Live 8 Beta Library was only partially installed. Did you get any error messages or prompts to replace files during the installation?

no, I did not get the Keep/Replace dialog during this update

One thing I notice is that Tension is not listed there, and that when I search for Live packs it is marked as 'uninstalled'

I'll try a few things and report back.

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:15 pm

I manually "searched for uninstalled Live packs" using the quite bad system for doing that.

It then found the packs and I used the bad system to install them - which worked OK

Lovin Teris · Post by **Lovin Teris** » Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:54 pm

I tried that, and it helped me install the Beta library and lessons. However, the packs for Electric, Operator and Tension did not install. Same error message about a database problem as mentioned above.

Live did not crash, and I did not have other instances open.

From before I had the Live 7 Suite and EIC1 installed.

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:36 pm

I installed Beta 8 and there were no errors, but there is obviously still a problem because I am missing some functionality.

Live's "search for un-installed Live Packs" feature tells me that all the packs are installed (well it doesn't actually TELL me that, because it is rubbish) but I can see no packs marked as 'uninstalled'

I am not inclined to take Daniels suggestion to install the beta library to a separate location than my real Live 8 Library .. because that is not a real-world solution. Removing all of my other Live packs such as Session Drums and EIC2 ... just to make the beta pack work right?

that's not a solution

So, tell me - how do I force a index rebuild.
I have an idea how I can do it, but I would hope Ableton have a method - as there is obviously a few others with this issue.

My Library, under beta 8, with no metadata

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:39 pm

OK, I am commencing rebuilding my index manually - because i do actually know how to force this (with a trick).

But I think that there is certainly a bug here to be fixed.

... now I'm off to watch paint set while this library index updates.
Does this process still take an hour and a half?

*man locked out of Live*

wheee!

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:58 pm

OK,
my library is not updating.

it gets to a certain point and just fails

I would greatly appreciate a fix for this

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:56 pm

Just tried it again, oddly it got to 38% this time.

Which is odd, as I would expect the failure to occur at the same point each time.

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:23 pm

Here's some information from the Log

note the information about
Database: Statement failed: database or disk is full
1292270 ms. Exception: database or disk is full

My OS disk partition has 59gb free
My Library partition has 100Gb free

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1234246 ms. Directories: Library Presets: Check
1234247 ms. Directories: Library Presets: Ok
1234248 ms. Directories: Library: Check
1234248 ms. Directories: Library: Ok
1234249 ms. Directories: Library Presets: Check
1234250 ms. Directories: Library Presets: Ok
1234254 ms. Directories: Library: Check
1234255 ms. Directories: Library: Ok
1234256 ms. Directories: Library Presets: Check
1234257 ms. Directories: Library Presets: Ok
1234257 ms. Directories: Library: Check
1234258 ms. Directories: Library: Ok
1234259 ms. Directories: Library Presets: Check
1234260 ms. Directories: Library Presets: Ok
1292255 ms. Database: Statement failed: database or disk is full
1292270 ms. Exception: database or disk is full
1292273 ms. Exception: === Begin stack trace (pc:fn) ===
1292274 ms. Exception: 12345678:00000000
1292275 ms. Exception: 00AD808F:00AD7FF0
1292276 ms. Exception: 011DEA4C:011DE980
1292276 ms. Exception: 011DF7F5:011DF700
1292277 ms. Exception: 011DFA3A:011DF890
1292278 ms. Exception: === End stack trace ===
1295448 ms. Database: Statement failed: database or disk is full
1295448 ms. Exception: database or disk is full
1295451 ms. Exception: === Begin stack trace (pc:fn) ===
1295452 ms. Exception: 12345678:00000000
1295453 ms. Exception: 00AD808F:00AD7FF0
1295454 ms. Exception: 011DEA4C:011DE980
1295454 ms. Exception: 011DF7F5:011DF700
1295455 ms. Exception: 011DFA3A:011DF890
1295456 ms. Exception: === End stack trace ===
1611978 ms. Database: Statement failed: database or disk is full
1611991 ms. Exception: database or disk is full
1611996 ms. Exception: === Begin stack trace (pc:fn) ===
1611997 ms. Exception: 12345678:00000000
1611998 ms. Exception: 00AD808F:00AD7FF0
1611999 ms. Exception: 011DEA4C:011DE980
1611999 ms. Exception: 011DF7F5:011DF700
1612000 ms. Exception: 011DFA3A:011DF890
1612000 ms. Exception: 0012F950:00000000
1612000 ms. Exception: === End stack trace ===
2144459 ms. Database: Statement failed: unable to open database file
2144490 ms. Exception: unable to open database file
2144495 ms. Exception: === Begin stack trace (pc:fn) ===
2144496 ms. Exception: 12345678:00000000
2144497 ms. Exception: 00AD808F:00AD7FF0
2144500 ms. Exception: 011DEA4C:011DE980
2144500 ms. Exception: 011DF7F5:011DF700
2144501 ms. Exception: 011DFA3A:011DF890
2144502 ms. Exception: === End stack trace ===
2243232 ms. Database: Statement failed: unable to open database file
2243249 ms. Exception: unable to open database file
2243251 ms. Exception: === Begin stack trace (pc:fn) ===
2243251 ms. Exception: 12345678:00000000
2243252 ms. Exception: 00AD808F:00AD7FF0
2243253 ms. Exception: 011DEA4C:011DE980
2243254 ms. Exception: 011DF7F5:011DF700
2243254 ms. Exception: 011DFA3A:011DF890
2243255 ms. Exception: === End stack trace ===
2612925 ms. Directories: Library: Check
2612926 ms. Directories: Library: Ok
2612927 ms. Directories: Library Presets: Check
2612928 ms. Directories: Library Presets: Ok
2612940 ms. Directories: Library: Check
2612941 ms. Directories: Library: Ok
2612942 ms. Directories: Library Presets: Check
2612943 ms. Directories: Library Presets: Ok
2612960 ms. Directories: Library: Check
2612961 ms. Directories: Library: Ok

Gregor · Post by **Gregor** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:09 am

Hi Angstrom,

could you send me your complete Log files (c:\documents and settings\<your account>\application settings\Ableton\Live 8.0b8\Preferences\Log.txt).

Could you also tell me what files are in c:\documents and settings\<user>\application settings\ableton\Live 8.0b8\Database\ and what their size is?

Thanks,
Gregor

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:18 am

Hi Gregor, I'll mail you my logs for betas 7 and 8

RE: the files in
c:\documents and settings\<user>\application settings\ableton\Live 8.0b8\Database\

the files sizes for those in Beta 7 are
files.db [3766 KB]
index.db [4 KB]

the files sizes for those in Beta 8
files.db [3471 KB]
index.db [4 KB]

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:33 am

I wonder if there is a problem with my computer username being in the format

C:\documents and settings\username.computername\
with a "."

does your databasing method have problems with unexpected "." in paths?

the clue being this log entry from beta 8

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9810 ms. Database: Open file: 'C:\Documents and Settings\ *username.COMPUTERNAME* \Application Data\Ableton\Live 8.0b8\Database\index.db'
9812 ms. Index: Failed [0x000c]: no such table: version

(*) is my edit, just to obfuscate my username and computername