[amo] empty renders in arrangement view

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[amo] empty renders in arrangement view

Post by popoff » Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:55 pm

live may render an empty file regardless on settings in arrangement view.

1. record an arrangement from the clips in session view (f9)
2. switch to arrangement mode (tab) and set the region for renering
* live seems not to toggle "back to arrangement" button (f10), so when render starts it calls back to session view. the button needs to be toggled manually.

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Re: 8b19: empty renders in arrangement view

Post by posssu » Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:02 pm

Are you sure Live has ever done this? If you think of it, it would be pain in the ass if Live toggled "Back to arrangement" automatically after each time you record even one second from Session view to Arrangement view.

I think it's ment to stay that way and when you're ready recording things (maybe in multiple takes) from Session -> Arrangement, then you toggle manually "Back to Arrangement view" to tell Live you will now start working there.
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Re: 8b19: empty renders in arrangement view

Post by popoff » Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:07 pm

'llo,

Just checked it with AL7.0.14 and the button toggles automatically when switching from session to arrangement mode, so one may simply render the recorded almost straight away and without manually toggling the button.
The rendering mode stricly depends on the chosen working mode (session/arrangement).
It also has a result on mixing session elements with arrangement. One may play arrangement with specific channels taken from the session view.
've haven't checked how it works in 80b19, but i don't expect it to work same as in 7.0.14

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Re: [amo] empty renders in arrangement view

Post by Amaury » Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:17 pm

Hi,

Here, using beta 19, after recording session clips to Arranger via global record, the "Return to Arrangement" button is turning OFF, after pressing Stop in the Transport bar. Isn't it for you?

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Re: [amo] empty renders in arrangement view

Post by popoff » Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:35 pm

Yup, that's how it should work, but actually it doesn't.

just recorded track from session view (f9), then stopped both the clips and main player (You know - that on the top bar), then switched to arrangement but the "back to arrangement" button didn't work, had to f10 manually, as mentioned before :\
Maybe I could record the events or make logfile for You to check it out?

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Re: [amo] empty renders in arrangement view

Post by Amaury » Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:52 pm

Hi,

Yes please, restart Live, reproduce the problem, and then choose "Make a bug reporting snapshot" from the Help menu. Send the file to [email protected], with a reference to this thread.

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