Hi all,
I am trying to configure by behringer fcb1010 to trigger loops in live.
I've been successful in trigger the loops, however at the same time I trigger one of my WAV loops, it is triggering a MIDI piano note. Any idea how to remedy that? Forgive me if this is an elementary question, but I am just learning.
Thanks,
Andy
FCB1010 issue
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Re: FCB1010 issue
LOL, another FCB thread! woohoo! heh.
I'd try changing the FCB so that you are sending CCs instead of MIDI notes.
Two ways to go: 1. manual programming or
2. http://www.wabbitwanch.com/iFCB.html A handy little app that will make things much easier.
If you're up for manual, here's some instructions. You can't go wrong if you follow them EXACTLY. Good luck!
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Firstly, this guide assumes that your FCB1010 is fresh out of the box. If it isn’t just do a factory reset (…fortunately this is something that IS accurately explained in the FCB1010 manual).
It also assumes that you’ve connected the FCB1010 to you computer via a MIDI interface and have already set this up in Live’s MIDI preferences. Oh, and that the FCB1010 is powered on. ;p
A quick note, in the instructions PUSH refers to a quick push of the pedal, HOLD means hold the pedal down for about 2.5 seconds. Now, onto programming.
1. Select the bank to program by tapping the UP/ENTER or DOWN/ESCAPE pedals. In this example, let’s use Bank 05. Ensure that 05 appears in the numeric display
2. Select the pedal to assign a MIDI CC message to. Let’s use pedal #1. Pedal #1’s red LED should light up
3. Push the DOWN/ESCAPE pedal until the green LED for SWITCH 2 starts flashing
4. Push UP/ENTER to confirm that you want to edit pedal #1
5. Now, you’ll notice that pedals #1, #8, and #9 all have their LED’s activated. This means that pedal #1 has these MIDI functions already assigned to it. It is necessary to disable these MIDI functions before programming the FCB1010 to work properly with Live. So, to turn them off you must HOLD THE PEDAL DOWN UNTIL THE RED LED TURNS OFF. Do this for pedals #1, #8, and #9. Pedal #1 – which you’re editing – now has NO CC#’s or MIDI notes assigned to it.
6. Next, you have to assign a MIDI CC to pedal #1. Do this by holding down pedal #6 labelled CNT 1. Pedal #6’s LED should light up and stay on.
7. Push down pedal #6 so that its LED starts flashing.
8. Push UP/ENTER to confirm that you want to change the value for CNT 1.
9. A number should start flashing in the numeric display above the UP/ENTER pedal. This shows the current CC# number that pedal #1 is assigned to. For use with Live, this needs to be assigned to an undefined CC# which are CC#’s 22-31, and 84-90. For this example, let’s use CC#22, so enter this either by pressing the #2 pedal twice, or by using the Expression Controller A.
10. The numeric display should now read 22 and it should not be flashing. Press UP/ENTER to confirm this selection
11. Next, the numeric display should be flashing with a value. This is the velocity setting, which for our purposes you should set to 127 in the same manner described in step 9
12. The numeric display should now read 127 and it should not be flashing. Press UP/ENTER to confirm this selection. The LED for pedal #6 should stop flashing and remain lit.
13. The next step is to save the new settings. To do this, hold the DOWN/ESCAPE pedal until the Bank number appears in the numeric display, which in this case, should be 05. The LED for pedal #1 should remain lit.
14. The quickest way to confirm that the setting has been saved is to assign pedal #1 to a parameter in Live. So, assuming that you’ve already got Live open and your FCB1010 is connected, click on Live’s MIDI button in the top right hand corner.
15. Select a parameter to which you’d like to assign Pedal #1. In this example, let’s assign it to the record arm button of audio channel #1.
16. Press down on pedal #1. The number x/22 should appear on the record arm button where x represents the MIDI channel the data on which the FCB is transmitting on, most likely it’ll be channel 1, 2, or 3. Of main concern is that the number 22 – this is the CC number you’ve just programmed into pedal #1 on the FCB1010.
To assign the rest of the pedals, all you have to do is repeat steps 2 to 13. This is a bit time consuming but having been through it myself, it’s definitely worth the effort.
I haven’t yet explored assigning MIDI CC#’s to the expression pedals, although I’m sure that opportunity will present itself in the near future. And I’m 99.9% sure it’ll be done the same way as I’ve described above.
I'd try changing the FCB so that you are sending CCs instead of MIDI notes.
Two ways to go: 1. manual programming or
2. http://www.wabbitwanch.com/iFCB.html A handy little app that will make things much easier.
If you're up for manual, here's some instructions. You can't go wrong if you follow them EXACTLY. Good luck!
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Firstly, this guide assumes that your FCB1010 is fresh out of the box. If it isn’t just do a factory reset (…fortunately this is something that IS accurately explained in the FCB1010 manual).
It also assumes that you’ve connected the FCB1010 to you computer via a MIDI interface and have already set this up in Live’s MIDI preferences. Oh, and that the FCB1010 is powered on. ;p
A quick note, in the instructions PUSH refers to a quick push of the pedal, HOLD means hold the pedal down for about 2.5 seconds. Now, onto programming.
1. Select the bank to program by tapping the UP/ENTER or DOWN/ESCAPE pedals. In this example, let’s use Bank 05. Ensure that 05 appears in the numeric display
2. Select the pedal to assign a MIDI CC message to. Let’s use pedal #1. Pedal #1’s red LED should light up
3. Push the DOWN/ESCAPE pedal until the green LED for SWITCH 2 starts flashing
4. Push UP/ENTER to confirm that you want to edit pedal #1
5. Now, you’ll notice that pedals #1, #8, and #9 all have their LED’s activated. This means that pedal #1 has these MIDI functions already assigned to it. It is necessary to disable these MIDI functions before programming the FCB1010 to work properly with Live. So, to turn them off you must HOLD THE PEDAL DOWN UNTIL THE RED LED TURNS OFF. Do this for pedals #1, #8, and #9. Pedal #1 – which you’re editing – now has NO CC#’s or MIDI notes assigned to it.
6. Next, you have to assign a MIDI CC to pedal #1. Do this by holding down pedal #6 labelled CNT 1. Pedal #6’s LED should light up and stay on.
7. Push down pedal #6 so that its LED starts flashing.
8. Push UP/ENTER to confirm that you want to change the value for CNT 1.
9. A number should start flashing in the numeric display above the UP/ENTER pedal. This shows the current CC# number that pedal #1 is assigned to. For use with Live, this needs to be assigned to an undefined CC# which are CC#’s 22-31, and 84-90. For this example, let’s use CC#22, so enter this either by pressing the #2 pedal twice, or by using the Expression Controller A.
10. The numeric display should now read 22 and it should not be flashing. Press UP/ENTER to confirm this selection
11. Next, the numeric display should be flashing with a value. This is the velocity setting, which for our purposes you should set to 127 in the same manner described in step 9
12. The numeric display should now read 127 and it should not be flashing. Press UP/ENTER to confirm this selection. The LED for pedal #6 should stop flashing and remain lit.
13. The next step is to save the new settings. To do this, hold the DOWN/ESCAPE pedal until the Bank number appears in the numeric display, which in this case, should be 05. The LED for pedal #1 should remain lit.
14. The quickest way to confirm that the setting has been saved is to assign pedal #1 to a parameter in Live. So, assuming that you’ve already got Live open and your FCB1010 is connected, click on Live’s MIDI button in the top right hand corner.
15. Select a parameter to which you’d like to assign Pedal #1. In this example, let’s assign it to the record arm button of audio channel #1.
16. Press down on pedal #1. The number x/22 should appear on the record arm button where x represents the MIDI channel the data on which the FCB is transmitting on, most likely it’ll be channel 1, 2, or 3. Of main concern is that the number 22 – this is the CC number you’ve just programmed into pedal #1 on the FCB1010.
To assign the rest of the pedals, all you have to do is repeat steps 2 to 13. This is a bit time consuming but having been through it myself, it’s definitely worth the effort.
I haven’t yet explored assigning MIDI CC#’s to the expression pedals, although I’m sure that opportunity will present itself in the near future. And I’m 99.9% sure it’ll be done the same way as I’ve described above.
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Re: FCB1010 issue
Try this: http://bl0rg.net/~manuel/fcb1010-mappings/
It's a great, free, preset dump for the 1010 by some generous cat named Manuel. It's well thought out and definitely beats doing the river dance trying to program the thing yourself.
I could not get it to work properly with Live 5 for some reason (probably because it was written for Live 6) but I just tried it with 7 earlier this evening and it works great.
It's a great, free, preset dump for the 1010 by some generous cat named Manuel. It's well thought out and definitely beats doing the river dance trying to program the thing yourself.
I could not get it to work properly with Live 5 for some reason (probably because it was written for Live 6) but I just tried it with 7 earlier this evening and it works great.
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Oh yeah, probably goes without saying, but you'll want to make sure you have a midi cable running to the in on the 1010 when you dump the preset into it from ableton.
I was getting frustrated the first time I tried it because the 1010 wasn't reacting to the incoming data, then I realized it probably was never going to make it there through the midi output...
Once you have it set up you can probably lose the midi in to the 1010 - I have mine set up with a midisport 2x2 and just leave the 2 midi cables connected to it.
I was getting frustrated the first time I tried it because the 1010 wasn't reacting to the incoming data, then I realized it probably was never going to make it there through the midi output...
Once you have it set up you can probably lose the midi in to the 1010 - I have mine set up with a midisport 2x2 and just leave the 2 midi cables connected to it.
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epic forum win!
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Re: FCB1010 issue
You like that?
It really is a nice configuration and mad props to the guy who set it up and put it out there for us to use!
I got so annoyed trying to program the 1010 myself that I threw it in the corner and forgot about it. Then I found this preset dump and got really excited - 'cept I wrote over what I had programmed when I dumped this one in - just to find that I could not get this to work in 5. So I threw the 1010 back in the corner and forgot about it... again.
Just tonight I tired again with Live 7 and was so stoked to have it working!!
It's pretty cool that someone happened to ask here while that link was fresh in my burnt out memory. Be sure to share it far and wide with other frustrated 1010 users!!!
It really is a nice configuration and mad props to the guy who set it up and put it out there for us to use!
I got so annoyed trying to program the 1010 myself that I threw it in the corner and forgot about it. Then I found this preset dump and got really excited - 'cept I wrote over what I had programmed when I dumped this one in - just to find that I could not get this to work in 5. So I threw the 1010 back in the corner and forgot about it... again.
Just tonight I tired again with Live 7 and was so stoked to have it working!!
It's pretty cool that someone happened to ask here while that link was fresh in my burnt out memory. Be sure to share it far and wide with other frustrated 1010 users!!!
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Re: FCB1010 issue
LOL, Although with that preset dump you are locked in to whatever that person has designed. It's cool, but wasn't right for my workflow.
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smutek wrote:Oh yeah, probably goes without saying, but you'll want to make sure you have a midi cable running to the in on the 1010 when you dump the preset into it from ableton.
I was getting frustrated the first time I tried it because the 1010 wasn't reacting to the incoming data, then I realized it probably was never going to make it there through the midi output...
Once you have it set up you can probably lose the midi in to the 1010 - I have mine set up with a midisport 2x2 and just leave the 2 midi cables connected to it.
Good thing I rechecked the forum...thank you for adding this in because it wasn't working initally...like I said I am a complete ignoramus at this stuff. Works perfectly now. Thanks again
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Totally man, if you're big on customization I can definitely see the down side. I just like to turn shit on and have it work. Programming controllers and such makes my brain go all soft. I'd never make it with MAX.LoopStationZebra wrote:LOL, Although with that preset dump you are locked in to whatever that person has designed. It's cool, but wasn't right for my workflow.
I just basically wanted to be able to zip around scenes and trigger/arm/record to clips as I wanted to and this serves that need pretty well. Between the preset for the 1010 and the preset for my Axiom 49 I'm pretty well set for my own work flow - though I have to admit it's kind of a stretch to call what I am doing a "work flow".
One thing I would like to be able to do is to be able to assign one simple key command - apple/D - to a button on my axiom. that would definitely be a cool thing for me.
No prob, happy jamming!apf87c wrote: Good thing I rechecked the forum...thank you for adding this in because it wasn't working initally...like I said I am a complete ignoramus at this stuff. Works perfectly now. Thanks again
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Thats all cool stuff. but wouldnt the OPs original problem have been solved simply by making sure the FCB sends on a separate midi channel?
Would have been a quick win.
Would have been a quick win.
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One last thing; does any body know if the software mapping program from Manual works with Live8? Some of the functions work, but not like he was mapped out on his diagram?
Thanks,
Andy
Thanks,
Andy
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I'm not sure as I am on Live 7. What features are not working?
Also, Manual's email address is on the page with the preset dump, drop him a line and maybe he will be able to help.
Also, Manual's email address is on the page with the preset dump, drop him a line and maybe he will be able to help.
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UKRuss wrote:Thats all cool stuff. but wouldnt the OPs original problem have been solved simply by making sure the FCB sends on a separate midi channel?
Would have been a quick win.
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Hey there- well according to the mode of operation on Manual's website, bank "00" is the main controller with pedals 1-7 acting as toggle switches. According to his description, I should be able to both trigger and stop a clip by pressing whatever pedal I choose, e.g. pedal 1.smutek wrote:I'm not sure as I am on Live 7. What features are not working?
Also, Manual's email address is on the page with the preset dump, drop him a line and maybe he will be able to help.
I can trigger the clip by pressing pedal 1, but cannot stop it. However, I can stop the clip by pressing pedal 10. So it makes me think that maybe some of the other parameters would be out of sync as well?
To be honest, I was only able to spend about 20 minutes with it, so I need to dive back it and make sure everything is set up properly within the scenes, etc.
I did shot Manual an email as well. Thanks -