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toma
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Some short ambient track

Post by toma » Mon May 04, 2009 7:40 am

Here it is called "La rosée pour lit":

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Re: Some short ambient track

Post by Jarvisimon » Mon May 04, 2009 10:10 am

Hmmmm, why does ambient have to mean gentle, sustained and drifty?

No offense, it's alright, it's just gentle, sustained and drifty similar to Eno/Fripp 70's stuff.

Check out the darker ambiences that I posted a link to, it may not be your cup of tea but it's definitely not your average drifty ambience.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default ... dID=944007

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Re: Some short ambient track

Post by toma » Mon May 04, 2009 12:32 pm

I don't really care about what ambient is supposed to sound like or not, to say the truth... I just thought ambient would fit better than hard techno.
No offense but I don't really like the way you express yourself here. I'm sure your music is interesting though.

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Re: Some short ambient track

Post by Jarvisimon » Mon May 04, 2009 12:50 pm

hey, i'm not trying to be offensive, though perhaps i am a bit too plain speaking and it comes across the wrong way.

i thought your track was fine, i just don't go in for that drifty sound. too many people make drones and pass it off as ambience, so i try and point this out to people so that they can try something different.

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Re: Some short ambient track

Post by LoopStationZebra » Mon May 04, 2009 1:22 pm

Jarvisimon wrote:it may not be your cup of tea but it's definitely not your average drifty ambience.


That's because your stuff is...um.....not Ambient. Electronic / experimental maybe. But Ambient? Nay.
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Re: Some short ambient track

Post by LoopStationZebra » Mon May 04, 2009 1:26 pm

toma wrote:Here it is called "La rosée pour lit":

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Pretty good stuff. The only thing that I didn't like was the arpeggiated harp-type sound at the beginning. It gives it too much of a 'New Age' feel. It's too happy. I start to get images of Maidens dancing in fields of daisys in the morning sun, lol. The other sounds, particularly towards the end, were fantastic.
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Re: Some short ambient track

Post by Jarvisimon » Mon May 04, 2009 1:38 pm

LoopStationZebra wrote:
Jarvisimon wrote:it may not be your cup of tea but it's definitely not your average drifty ambience.


That's because your stuff is...um.....not Ambient. Electronic / experimental maybe. But Ambient? Nay.
My understanding of the word ambience is "an atmosphere, a particular environment or surrounding influence"......a car engine revving up is an ambience, as is a herd of jet aircraft screaming over baghdad dropping bombs as is a room full of people sneezing.

My sound is that of software synths being tortured, which although not your more commonly heard ambiences, is just as worthy.

The real thing is to get away from drones, which I personally blame on Brian Eno and Robert Fripp, who popularised that sound and which we have wrongly adopted to mean "ambience".

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Re: Some short ambient track

Post by toma » Mon May 04, 2009 1:41 pm

Jarvisimon > understood :) It's just that this: "but it's definitely not your average drifty ambience" felt a little rude to me, even if I know you're talking more generally. It's my first try at making such music so i'll try harder next time.

LoopStationZebra > I think I know what you mean. The very first sound is what made me start this track. I find it rather round and melodic, makes me think to some parts of Satie or Debussy :lol:

I'll work on it anyway, will post some update here.

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Re: Some short ambient track

Post by Jarvisimon » Mon May 04, 2009 2:18 pm

toma wrote:It's just that this: "but it's definitely not your average drifty ambience" felt a little rude to me.

Yeah fair enough, I can see your point.

For me however, ambience can be screaming babies, multi-layered, distorted and overdriven as much as music to zone out to.

I'm working on some poetry at the moment. I've cut up the words, assigned each word to a key in a sampler and then triggered the patch with a random arpeggio, which also triggers a very strange synth sound via a gate, unfortunately, it's unlistenable so i'm going to have to go back to the drawing board.

The whole piece has to somehow sit together which is all the fun of making it, I just experiment until I get a decent overall picture.

Ableton is brilliant for this, so I can't wait for Live 8 to stabilise as the new tools are superb.

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Re: Some short ambient track

Post by LoopStationZebra » Mon May 04, 2009 4:55 pm

Jarvisimon wrote:The real thing is to get away from drones, which I personally blame on Brian Eno and Robert Fripp, who popularised that sound and which we have wrongly adopted to mean "ambience".
You have it all backwards. But I still like your track. A lot.
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Re: Some short ambient track

Post by Jarvisimon » Tue May 05, 2009 1:26 am

LoopStationZebra wrote:
Jarvisimon wrote:The real thing is to get away from drones, which I personally blame on Brian Eno and Robert Fripp, who popularised that sound and which we have wrongly adopted to mean "ambience".
You have it all backwards. But I still like your track. A lot.
:P
well that's good to know. I shall get some more done soon.


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Re: Some short ambient track

Post by darkvortex » Tue May 05, 2009 3:15 am

toma wrote:Here it is called "La rosée pour lit":

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Nice work there! I enjoyed it and found myself drifting away.

I think LoopStationZebra makes a good point about the arpeggio bit at the start. Although perhaps all it needs is some sort of effects processing to make it sounds a bit more spacey/distant/indistinct. Over time it could become less distant (i.e. less effects). Just a thought anyway.

Looking forward to the next one. :)
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Re: Some short ambient track

Post by 8O » Tue May 05, 2009 9:01 pm

Great track. And, for the record, it's exactly what I expect to hear when labelled "ambient". Thanks for sharing - more please!
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Re: Some short ambient track

Post by LoopStationZebra » Wed May 06, 2009 12:04 am

darkvortex wrote: ....the arpeggio bit at the start. Although perhaps all it needs is some sort of effects processing to make it sounds a bit more spacey/distant/indistinct. Over time it could become less distant (i.e. less effects). Just a thought anyway.

YES! Good one. Didn't even think about salvaging that bit and just mangling it up. Even a nice low pass filter with a ton of reverb could do the trick.
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