Rollback to Live 7 - we can't play live with Version 8

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.

Happy with Live 8 ?

Poll ended at Thu Jun 04, 2009 10:20 am

Yes
41
57%
No
18
25%
Don't know
13
18%
 
Total votes: 72

ChrisSummer
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Rollback to Live 7 - we can't play live with Version 8

Post by ChrisSummer » Tue May 05, 2009 10:20 am

I'm realy disappointed of the new Live 8 Version.
And also i'm realy disappointed that my first posting in this forum - need to have this title.

In my opinion Live 8 is still in alpha status.
Still the Beta Updates (2b) glitches my piano Window.
Can't arrange notes probably (this was fixed in Live 8.01 - now its broken again *grrrr*).
The Warp Tool for Audio Files - isn't as easy to use as the one from Live 7.
Takes me much longer to get full songs in sync - and this feature we need on stage!!!
Warp Tool doesn't sounds so improved like Ableton told in the Releasenotes.
Different Sync Problems that had never happend with live 7.
( Two Xone 4d - different other Midi synths and Grovebboxes and also the other macbook gets out of sync after 3-5 min).
Different Problems with the Librarys. ( Invalid Product ID - wtf?!?)
Live Crashes so often that i cant recapitulate what the reason had been for.
In my opinion many many features that were stable in Live 7 get broken in Live 8.

With the DJ Team we decided to make a rollback to Live 7 - because our gigs gettin closer and we NEED a working program that we can trust not to crash on stage!
With Live 8 we dont have any garanty :(
Now we have al lot of work to do to get the new Sets back to Version 7.
The new features in 8 are nice gimiks but not realy important for us.
Okay the limiter and Multiband compression would be nice to have in Version 7 now.
We would like to use the other features but please in a stable Version.

Still alle updates are beta - and get other bugs.
Please dear Ableton Team: hurry up.
I know thats a big Job you doin there and we like Live so much that we kicked off Logic, Cubase and Reason.
So know we are addicted to your products!!!
We need a stable working Version!!!

And also I aggree to the other users - I'm NOT your Beta Tester.
Live 8.0.1 is an official Release and i expect the oficial releases are stable.

Sorry Ableton-Team but this time we are realy realy disapointed.

Sorry for my poor english. < edited ;)

Greatz
Chris
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dick nixon
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Re: Rollback to Live 7 - we can't play live with Version 8

Post by dick nixon » Tue May 05, 2009 12:20 pm

Does it sometimes seem like someone from some other company is paying people to post this stuff here? The tone of these diatribes is a little...off.

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Re: Rollback to Live 7 - we can't play live with Version 8

Post by b0unce » Tue May 05, 2009 12:25 pm

dick nixon wrote:Does it sometimes seem like someone from some other company is paying people to post this stuff here?

Nope.
Not in the slightest.

For a start, do you think the guy is lying about the current stability of live8 ?
He's not. So why presume industrial espionage ? ....

Ableton release a new version roughly once a year. Think about it. How are they supposed to be stabilising live8 whilst simultaniously coding live9 ? There are some major conflict of interests within the Ableton business model.
spreader of butter

ChrisSummer
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Re: Rollback to Live 7 - we can't play live with Version 8

Post by ChrisSummer » Tue May 05, 2009 12:34 pm

I'm not from an other company !!! :evil:

I'm using Live since Version 6 - and I am so lucky to found a Program that fits up all my needs. I have sold all other licenses of other Programms because i where so lucky - but i'm no happy with the current Version.
Bougt 2 new Computer the biggest macpro you can get in the store and a new Macbook.
On my older macbook pro 1ghz 15" 512mb ram - Version 7 runs more comfy then live 8 on my new one with more then the double performance.
The only think i like to say - is:
please please please please hurry up with the bug fixes - nothing else - sending crash reports logs and everything else but please
HURRY !

Because of some time pressure we decided to switch back - because this Version 7 run stable like a rock in the shore (hmmm :roll: dont know how to say correct in english ;) )

Live 8 will be used with next official patch (when it get its stability back)
for now i cant use it - so i'm disapointed by the early release date thats all

UKRuss
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Re: Rollback to Live 7 - we can't play live with Version 8

Post by UKRuss » Tue May 05, 2009 12:37 pm

It's: "I am sorry for my poor English"

Bad English is a band.

FWIW, I have gigged out a few times with L8 without issue. If you have so many problems you find it unuseable why not simply continue to use L7. :?

ChrisSummer
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Re: Rollback to Live 7 - we can't play live with Version 8

Post by ChrisSummer » Tue May 05, 2009 12:43 pm

"I am sorry for my poor English"
I'm still learning ;) thanx!
If you have so many problems you find it unuseable why not simply continue to use L7.
yes that's what we do now - but its a lot of work to get the sets we made in live 8 back to live 7.
you cant open Live 8 files in live 7 for shure.
and this will take a lot of time again.
and know i need to post my frustration somwhere.

I would like to use L8 on stage :cry:

Spikee
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Re: Rollback to Live 7 - we can't play live with Version 8

Post by Spikee » Tue May 05, 2009 12:45 pm

dick nixon wrote:Does it sometimes seem like someone from some other company is paying people to post this stuff here? The tone of these diatribes is a little...off.
One could also wonder if those who try to impugn loyal customers who are having a rough time with the new version aren't being paid by Ableton to make them look dumb. That works both ways.

ognum1971
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Re: Rollback to Live 7 - we can't play live with Version 8

Post by ognum1971 » Tue May 05, 2009 12:47 pm

i have to agree i am dissapointed that this version of live is not ready for distribution as there are way too many issues that need attention - revording latency ect - they should have stalled and released with soooo many bug fixes to be ammended- come on ableton !
sort it out - :x

ChrisSummer
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Re: Rollback to Live 7 - we can't play live with Version 8

Post by ChrisSummer » Tue May 05, 2009 12:59 pm

somthing i've forgotten to write:

i remember there where several problems by upgrading from L6 to L7 (because of major improvements like sidechain e.g.)
but this were fixed much faster then now from L7 to L8
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Re: Rollback to Live 7 - we can't play live with Version 8

Post by Emissary » Tue May 05, 2009 6:50 pm

live 8 is mucking me about, its filled with clicks and pops and seems to be really quite slow compared to 7. i like the features but they are not worth the current hassle at the moment. live is getting in the way of making music at this time

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Re: Rollback to Live 7 - we can't play live with Version 8

Post by Simmo » Tue May 05, 2009 8:32 pm

yeh live8 keeps crashing all over the shop for me, loading/previewing samples and it locks up, warping sometimes takes ages (where as the same operation in l7 is realtime) and crashes, cpu utilisation higher than l7...

...mind you i am runinng Windows 7 x64 RC so it may well not actually be Live8! :)

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Re: Rollback to Live 7 - we can't play live with Version 8

Post by SubFunk » Tue May 05, 2009 8:37 pm

The only thing i can say that L8 made me so angry last weekend, that i nearly went up the walls. the performance is that bad.
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Re: Rollback to Live 7 - we can't play live with Version 8

Post by SubFunk » Tue May 05, 2009 8:40 pm

ognum1971 wrote:i have to agree i am dissapointed that this version of live is not ready for distribution as there are way too many issues that need attention - revording latency ect - they should have stalled and released with soooo many bug fixes to be ammended- come on ableton !
sort it out - :x
That's it: amazing features but way to early released... The beta should have been 3-4 month longer.
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Re: Rollback to Live 7 - we can't play live with Version 8

Post by djsynchro » Tue May 05, 2009 8:51 pm

Pussy. Mine works fine. :D

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Re: Rollback to Live 7 - we can't play live with Version 8

Post by Tone Deft » Tue May 05, 2009 9:02 pm

works very well with me.

so go back to version 7, we don't care. no need for a thread FFS.

you waited for 8.01 to come out, you can wait for 8.02, 8.03 etc to be released.


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