Hardstyle Bass?

[Todd.Williams]

so i am quite new with ableton suite 8, and im working on some techno/dance/hardstlye/whatever song. and i want a really loud bass, kind of like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knRyilWKp9k (the bass im intrested in starts around 1:20) that really heavy pounding sound is what im really into. if anyone can help, in the simplest terms possible, please do help. thanks, Todd.

[hurlingdervish]

get a vst synth or a native one from your program

2-4 oscillators of the sawtooth waveform

detune each one

distort as necessary

pretty simple

[Todd.Williams]

could u recomend a good synth? i have had bad luck trying to find a good one that would fit.

[philmb]

tryed loads of synths mate.. N operator is actually a lot better than you first think.. Other than that, Camel Audio Alchemy.. been using that recently, wooooo, that is one sick synth in my opinion.. http://www.camelaudio.com/Alchemy.php

Not seen a bad review about it. A stupid amount of modulation aoptions!! Better than native instruments massive.. which is my other fave..