Bad sound quality, when recording.

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the angus
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Bad sound quality, when recording.

Post by the angus » Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:35 pm

I am playing a live set from live out to my edirol fa 66 sound card then into a pioneer djm 700 mixer then back into sound card and into live again recording in arrangement view. I was getting lots of pops and clicks so i adjusted the latency and ended up making it very high taking it up to 2048 samples and the artifacts seemed to dissapear but after recording the whole thing and listening it sounds terrible, not just pops and small clicks but just general terrible sound. Can anyone shed any light on what may be happening here.
Generally speaking even just when using analog or lives instruments the sound is sub standard and artifacts can be heard clearly, its been said before but i am disapointed with live 8.
Please anyone with feedback.

Live 8 suite
Macbook pro 2.53 ghz
4gb ram
Edirol fa 66
Djm 700 pioneer mixer

monobeach
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Re: Bad sound quality, when recording.

Post by monobeach » Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:23 pm

Hi!

First off, what are you trying to achieve? why are you recording the set from your mixer instead of directly recording it into arrangement view in Live?

Secondly, recording from the DJ mixer is perfectly possible, with Live like with any other DAW.
You are recording it onto a stereo track? (doesn't matter if in session or arrangement view, by the way)
bad sound quality can arise from different sources. make sure you don't clip the inputs on the interface while recording. make sure to use the right connections, connectors, phantom power disabled, etc.
could elaborate a little more on the setup?

capo-wear-i
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Re: Bad sound quality, when recording.

Post by capo-wear-i » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:58 pm

Ableton just records the audio coming into the soundcard in exactly the same way as any other app. Test it by recording something from yr decks using a free audio recording app then recording the same thing in ableton.

if the audio sounds different just when playing back in ableton, make sure you're not using complex, tones ot texture mode to play back yr recorded audio. If in doubt, switch off warp mode to hear what's going on.

Also : If there is a lot of noise in the signal, it's nothing to do with ableton: using unbalanced connections between yr mixer & soundcard could be causing a ground loop (interference).

Tone Deft
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Re: Bad sound quality, when recording.

Post by Tone Deft » Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:35 pm

post an audio sample, that will speak volumes as to what's going on.
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the angus
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Re: Bad sound quality, when recording.

Post by the angus » Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:22 am

I am recording a demo mixed cd for dj work. I am using the external mixer for convenience. Set up is
Outputs from firewire sound card edirol fa 66:
1,2 going to channel 3 on mixer balanced 1/4 inch jacks to rca on mixer
3,4 going to channel 4 on mixer balanced 1/4 inch jacks to rca on mixer

inputs to firewire sound card edirol fa 66:

rca leads from record out on mixer to RCA inputs 5,6 on Sound Card fa 66

And obviously FIREWIRE going to soundcard from laptop.

An interesting thing happened... I use various dj templates both in and out of the box( for use without a dj mixer using purely live and with a dj mixer) now these templates were all made in live 7. when i made a new template in live 8 the sound problem improved somewhat!! Playing tracks made or warped in live 7 also presents small artifacts, but if rewarped in 8 they improve somewhat but not totally... I will post a sound snippet. I've just been re recording this mix and now have to chop it all up.

thanks for the feedback guys.

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