wireless mouse wheel problem in session view

[d-track]

i have a microsoft wireless notebook optical mouse 4000 v1.0
in session view the clip scrolling is very slow. i have to scroll for a half minute to obtain one single step!

with my other (much older) MS cord mouse the thing works perfectly. also with my laptops touchpad sidescroller. (i hate touchpad)

any suggestion?
thank you!

ps: the wheel works best in every other application, for example in the browser in this forum etc

[robwest]

I'm seeing the same issue with my Microsoft Wireless Mobile Mouse 6000. I thought scroll wasn't working at all, but started over-scrolling, and I see it move just like d-track says. Pretty annoying. My Logitech mouse seemed to work fine. I'm so not used to grabbing a scrollbar anymore! How soon we forget.

[geiseric]

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=138097

same problem with MS Arc, seems like something to do with MS drivers maybe? It doesn't happen for me in xp, what OS you using?

:edit:
It got to me, I downgraded my main lappy to xp too, leaving me with 3 machines running an operating system thats almost a decade old now.. woo-hoo.

[geiseric]

new intellipoint driver fixes the issue with MS mice scrolling in windows 7, just figured I'd note it here in case anyone has the same problem in the future.

[Shoes]

Have you got a link? I've got Intellipont 7.1 or whatever, on Win 7 64-bit and it still won't work properly. Using a MS Mobile Wireless 6000.

[geiseric]

sorry it took so long, I don't look at the forums often. 7.10.344.0 is the specific driver that made the problem disappear for me..

[Shoes]

Hmm, I've got the latest, and I've tried reinsalling loads of times; no dice. Seems to be an application-specific problem, as Ableton and DestroyTwitter and the only things that have trouble, and nothing else.

Any chance of a little fix, Ableton?

[Stan]

I,ve downloaded the latest driver also and still the same problem, and only with Ableton. My os is windows7 64-bit.

[Alkama]

same problem!

win7 64bit, microsoft wireless mouse 5000(from a keyboard + mouse pack), intellipoint 7.10.344

[Stan]

It's 2010 snd still no solution to the scroll problem. It's a real pain.

[lunch]

Agreed. I have the same problem, windows 7, MS mouse. I wonder if I can find a more generic driver that will work?

[Alkama]

Found a possible solution/workaround and it's an easy one.

First, this is partly a Microsoft problem, not an Ableton's one.
What seems to happen is that Microsoft changed a value (wheel speed multiplication factor) that was expected to be fixed into a variable in their latest API (targeting Vista and +).
Since it's a new feature for most advanced mouses, they designed their own mice not to fallback and expect all the software to support that feature already...
And they're NOT.
Lots of software behave strangely with microsoft latest mice.

Anyway, here is a workaround, a very simple one:
- Go to your "mouse" settings in your "Configuration Panel" and CHANGE IT TO ANOTHER MODEL that behaves well in ableton in the "connected device" dropdown selector (the one under the picture of the device)

(and try to find a model that both work and has the same number of button)

for example, I own a "Microsoft Wireless 5000" mouse (5 buttons), and chose "Intellimouse Explorer 4.0".
I lost no feature, and now the mouse is working correctly !

Another tip... The mice that seem to have problems are the wireless ones... You'll probably see that the one you should select as a good fallback are the wired counterparts!

Hope it'll work for you
take care

[Stan]

Thanx Alkama, just changed to a wired wheel mouse application and it works great. Many thanx!