PadKontrol help.

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PadKontrol help.

Post by Soundscapemusic » Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:56 pm

Probably not the right section but i hope its ok :D

Got my PK! soo happy, its sweet i love it :P its a bit of a pain to setup and assign everything but whatever. Im having some difficulty! :( When i want to midi map its fucntions in live, it doesnt do it? Like live shows that its receieving midi messages from the PK, but its just not showing the assignments. Its runing on Midi channel 15 and its track button is on both on input and output of live. Any help?

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Re: PadKontrol help.

Post by autogen » Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:12 pm

You will need to have 'Remote' enabled on the input to use Live's MIDI mapping. 'Track' will just pass MIDI note messages through to instruments on MIDI tracks in Live.
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Re: PadKontrol help.

Post by Soundscapemusic » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:27 pm

That didnt seem to help :(
now live doesnt even recognize anything cominf from the PK ughhh

Help :(

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Re: PadKontrol help.

Post by Tone Deft » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:33 pm

restart Live, enabling remote is the answer if you're seeing the midi activity light come on. have the PK connected and turned on when you start Live.
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Re: PadKontrol help.

Post by Soundscapemusic » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:38 pm

track and Remote are both enabled. Restarted live a few times, turned the Pk on and off. sill nothing. no activity on the midi in light.

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Re: PadKontrol help.

Post by Tone Deft » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:42 pm

you can't turn the PK on and off while Live is running. doing that drops the connection until you restart Live.
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Re: PadKontrol help.

Post by Soundscapemusic » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:45 pm

im aware of that, i turned it on and off while live was closed, restarted live, same problem

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Re: PadKontrol help.

Post by Tone Deft » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:48 pm

are you trying to assign one button to more than one Live control?

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Re: PadKontrol help.

Post by Soundscapemusic » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:51 pm

noo, im trying to assign anything to anything just to make sure it works lol..

im a vegetable? lol

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Re: PadKontrol help.

Post by Tone Deft » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:53 pm

try assigning to lots of different things. I think with Live some controls prefer CCs, some prefer notes. I think I read that although I never hit that limitation.


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Re: PadKontrol help.

Post by Soundscapemusic » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:58 pm

thing is, live doesnt even recieve anything from the PK. earlier today i was playing kits with the pads, but wasnt able to assign those pads to anything.. right now, lives midi in indicator isnt even blinking no matter what i touch on the PK.

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Re: PadKontrol help.

Post by Tone Deft » Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:08 am

righty-o...

here's the 411 on midi assignments.
I - make sure the device is sending midi data.
IA - for this I check the midi in indicator in Live.
IA1 - if that doesn't work, I use 'midi ox' to view the midi data.
IA1a - if that doesn't work, then I check the controller's midi settings.

II turn the midi device on before launching Live.
IIA - I think with Macs this is less of an issue, or a non-issue altogether.

lets say Live's midi in indicator is working.
III from there it's a matter of having REMOTE IN turned on and I think applying note assignments where note assignments can go, same for CC assignments, I think but I've never had that problem. I think I read that here not too long ago.

IV if shit just won't work or is intermittent, change your cabling.

that's really all there is to it. I have no clue how many controllers I've helped people set up.



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Re: PadKontrol help.

Post by Soundscapemusic » Wed Aug 26, 2009 12:10 am

i am a white vegetable! who told ya?

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Re: PadKontrol help.

Post by Soundscapemusic » Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:18 pm

yeaaaa still nothing. Pad kontrol isnt being recognize by live. but it shows up in the pref tab. Im calling tech support.

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Re: PadKontrol help.

Post by Tone Deft » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:03 pm

are you an onion?

did you check the PK's settings??

fuck it, maybe you should just sell your gear and take up golf.
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