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eggnchips
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Eq question.

Post by eggnchips » Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:54 pm

I'm making a sample based house track.
I'm looping a really small 1 bar sample that I like but within this sample is a really aggresive snare hit that makes the ears bleed.
I've tried all I can to eq out the snare's dynamics but doing this also removes the character of the sample, making the rest of it very muffled and quiet.
Any tips on softening up this snare hit would be appreciated.

Thanks.
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Re: Eq question.

Post by mbird21 » Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:33 pm

Hi

Ita little hard to tell without hearing but from what you describe i would have tried the filter, maybe try rolling off little low end very slowly with a lp filter on eq and create a little resonance on tip of it with the q setting which brigten the harmonics of the part you do like.

Failing that try some overdrivr on mid/high and lower the volume on gain and more emphasis will hopefully not be on snare but what follows it, if im getting you right.

Delays can soften a otherwise banging sound but can change the loop alot, or maybe compress the loop so the part of loop you do want heard is brought up loud and then apply a gate and adjust threshold to roll off other part.

Sorry if that dont work, all i can really think of at the minute ;)

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Mike
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steffensen
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Re: Eq question.

Post by steffensen » Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:15 pm

Saturation. :)

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Re: Eq question.

Post by sherman » Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:26 am

eggnchips wrote:I'm making a sample based house track.
I'm looping a really small 1 bar sample that I like but within this sample is a really aggresive snare hit that makes the ears bleed.
I've tried all I can to eq out the snare's dynamics but doing this also removes the character of the sample, making the rest of it very muffled and quiet.
Any tips on softening up this snare hit would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Maybe try dropping the volume or aggressively filtering just that hit with some automation, and resample? Has helped me with rogue sounds in the past :)
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DJMillsy
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Re: Eq question.

Post by DJMillsy » Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:52 am

Can you post the loop so we can hear it?

With a little playing around it might be possible to completely remove the snare from the loop using a function like slice to midi.

d-track
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Re: Eq question.

Post by d-track » Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:00 am

a multiband compressor is what you need
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Re: Eq question.

Post by Guff Tong » Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:06 am

physicaly cut the snare right out of the loop,..

.. paste some other part of the loop over the hole left by the snare.

Chuck another snare of your liking over the top on another track if you need to.

...Get on with making the rest of the track.

.......Or alternatively you could fanny about for a few hours with a rack of gizmo's making multiple bounces etc... :wink:

eggnchips
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Re: Eq question.

Post by eggnchips » Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:50 pm

Thanks guys.
Compression seemed to help. Cutting out the snare is not feasable as it makes up a big part of the smaple.
I'd like to look in to multiband but need to work it out first.
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Musozo
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Re: Eq question.

Post by Musozo » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:04 pm

eggnchips wrote:I'm making a sample based house track.
I'm looping a really small 1 bar sample that I like but within this sample is a really aggresive snare hit that makes the ears bleed.
I've tried all I can to eq out the snare's dynamics but doing this also removes the character of the sample, making the rest of it very muffled and quiet.
Any tips on softening up this snare hit would be appreciated.

Thanks.
Had the some problem.
Forget all the compressor stuff for this problem, it doesn't work sufficiently. It destoys the groove of your sample.

Use the Adobe Audion wave editor. You can edit wave filse in a FFT timeline view. There you mark the frequency-time region of the snare and can lower the amplitude of these region. Repeat this several times to kill the snare ... but don't tell this anybody ...
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Re: Eq question.

Post by adverbial » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:19 pm

Why not just slice the audio file to midi and then replace offending snare?

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