Akai MPD 24 midi map mode
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stethoscanomaly
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Akai MPD 24 midi map mode
Hi, I'm using an Akai MPD24 with Live 8. I have the MPD selected as a control surface in Live's preferences and Live is receiving midi from the MPD, but I am unable to map Live controls to the MPD knobs and sliders. I activate midi map mode by clicking midi up in the corner of Live, and then I select the control I want to map to a knob, say for instance, dry/wet in a reverb device, and then I wiggle the knob I want to use on the MPD to control the parameter but no mapping results. That is, nothing comes up in the midi maps screen, and nothing appears above the control in Live and I am unable to control the parameter with the knob. I feel like maybe I'm missing something obvious and stupid but I have no idea what to do! please help! thank you
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jan jeffer
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Re: Akai MPD 24 midi map mode
hi,
i had an absolute nightmare trying to get my MPD 24 to work with ableton
turned out that i needed a firmware update for the MPD
be warned!!!!! the new update doesn't load onto the MPD with the AKAI updater
the update is sent to the MPD via a SYSEX message, when you send it via the AKAI app the message freezes at the last min.
to get around this i downloaded sysex librarian A SNOIZE Production
loaded up the new firmware and BINGO - worked a charm
i had an absolute nightmare trying to get my MPD 24 to work with ableton
turned out that i needed a firmware update for the MPD
be warned!!!!! the new update doesn't load onto the MPD with the AKAI updater
the update is sent to the MPD via a SYSEX message, when you send it via the AKAI app the message freezes at the last min.
to get around this i downloaded sysex librarian A SNOIZE Production
loaded up the new firmware and BINGO - worked a charm
Re: Akai MPD 24 midi map mode
hmmmm... very interesting this... I can't get the love out of my MPD... ShelLuser swears it can be great, and I believe him, but it just won't step up... anyway... this is my sticky note so I can find this thread again.jan jeffer wrote:be warned!!!!! the new update doesn't load onto the MPD with the AKAI updater
the update is sent to the MPD via a SYSEX message, when you send it via the AKAI app the message freezes at the last min.
to get around this i downloaded sysex librarian A SNOIZE Production
loaded up the new firmware and BINGO - worked a charm
Peace.
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Re: Akai MPD 24 midi map mode
I have an MPD32 and it works fine. Always has, before and after updating the firmware. Granted, the MPD32 is not the MPD24, but I can't imagine there's much difference.
Still, I have noticed that sometimes you need to turn a knob through the full range of CC values before it will be picked up by Ableton.
Apart from that minor issue, I'd recommend updating the firmware. Akai's control surfaces are great and you'll be glad you got it working.
Still, I have noticed that sometimes you need to turn a knob through the full range of CC values before it will be picked up by Ableton.
Apart from that minor issue, I'd recommend updating the firmware. Akai's control surfaces are great and you'll be glad you got it working.
Re: Akai MPD 24 midi map mode
this seems to be the way with more than just the MPD series. my Remote Zero and Axiom 25 pretty much act the same way.tyrosine wrote:Still, I have noticed that sometimes you need to turn a knob through the full range of CC values before it will be picked up by Ableton.
LoopStationZebra wrote:it's like a hipster commie pinko manifesto. Rambling. Angry. Nearly divorced from all reality; yet strangely compelling with a ring of truth.
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jan jeffer
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Re: Akai MPD 24 midi map mode
i got a few messages asking how i got my MPD 24 working so here goes;
step 1
download the firmware update "mpd24_v1_10.zip" funnily i couldn't find this on akais website just there so if you can't find it email me and i will send it
step 2
Use the Vysex software to remove the old firmware - there are step by step instructions in the Vysex help on how to do this.
Your MPD is now a useless plastic box - as there is no firmware installed
try uploading the new firmware via Vysex. This is unlikely to work but is still worth a shot.
At this point panic set in for me! The firmware is sent to the MPD as a sysex midi message - for some reason the Vysex software will not send this properly so.....
step 3
you need to download an alternative piece of software capable of sending sysex meassages.
i used 'Sysex Librarian' which you can find here http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/
step 4
use the new piece of software to send the firmware update to your MPD.
i can't really remember how i did this - i don't think it was very complicated just try it out, it should be self-explanatory
And thats it - the MPD24 worked as expected after that - I have also being playing around with the auto-map script which I recommend you check out when you are up and running.
all the best,
Jan Jeffer
www.soundcloud.com/jan-jeffer
step 1
download the firmware update "mpd24_v1_10.zip" funnily i couldn't find this on akais website just there so if you can't find it email me and i will send it
step 2
Use the Vysex software to remove the old firmware - there are step by step instructions in the Vysex help on how to do this.
Your MPD is now a useless plastic box - as there is no firmware installed
try uploading the new firmware via Vysex. This is unlikely to work but is still worth a shot.
At this point panic set in for me! The firmware is sent to the MPD as a sysex midi message - for some reason the Vysex software will not send this properly so.....
step 3
you need to download an alternative piece of software capable of sending sysex meassages.
i used 'Sysex Librarian' which you can find here http://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/
step 4
use the new piece of software to send the firmware update to your MPD.
i can't really remember how i did this - i don't think it was very complicated just try it out, it should be self-explanatory
And thats it - the MPD24 worked as expected after that - I have also being playing around with the auto-map script which I recommend you check out when you are up and running.
all the best,
Jan Jeffer
www.soundcloud.com/jan-jeffer
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jan jeffer
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Re: Akai MPD 24 midi map mode
i know what u mean about turning the knob all the way b4 it does anything seemingly - have you experimented with 'Takeover Mode'? This determines knob/slider behaviour in relation to current parameter position and may well solve your issue.H20nly wrote:this seems to be the way with more than just the MPD series. my Remote Zero and Axiom 25 pretty much act the same way.tyrosine wrote:Still, I have noticed that sometimes you need to turn a knob through the full range of CC values before it will be picked up by Ableton.
Re: Akai MPD 24 midi map mode
thanks Jan.
will try it all...
will try it all...
LoopStationZebra wrote:it's like a hipster commie pinko manifesto. Rambling. Angry. Nearly divorced from all reality; yet strangely compelling with a ring of truth.
Re: Akai MPD 24 midi map mode
Is that mode a setting in Ableton or on the Akai? Haven't noticed it before. Please elaborate if you have time. This is a minor issue, easily fixed, but I do find myself remapping controls a second time because I don't remember to turn the knob all the way around.jan jeffer wrote:i know what u mean about turning the knob all the way b4 it does anything seemingly - have you experimented with 'Takeover Mode'? This determines knob/slider behaviour in relation to current parameter position and may well solve your issue.
Re: Akai MPD 24 midi map mode
It's a setting in Live.
Options/Preferences/MIDI Sync/Takeover Mode VALUE SCALING
That's how I have it set and it works with my Akai MPK49.
Options/Preferences/MIDI Sync/Takeover Mode VALUE SCALING
That's how I have it set and it works with my Akai MPK49.
tyrosine wrote:Is that mode a setting in Ableton or on the Akai? Haven't noticed it before. Please elaborate if you have time. This is a minor issue, easily fixed, but I do find myself remapping controls a second time because I don't remember to turn the knob all the way around.jan jeffer wrote:i know what u mean about turning the knob all the way b4 it does anything seemingly - have you experimented with 'Takeover Mode'? This determines knob/slider behaviour in relation to current parameter position and may well solve your issue.