Unwarping midi clips

[barciewicz]

Is there a way to keep midi clips unaffected by the global tempo change (both in session and arrangement views)? With audio clips its easy - you just unwarp them. But with MIDI I have to type the tempo manually for each clip to match the global tempo. Is there any easier way?

[yur2die4]

I do not know the solution, but this is a good question (Would make phasing a bit easier to accomplish!)

[barciewicz]

Also , when Im playing a VST synth (Synth1), changing Live's global tempo affects the sound which comes out of this VST (especially when the arpeggiator is on). It causes trouble when recording MIDI clips with the metronome on - the metronome click does not correspond to the 'internal' synth tempo... Simply put - i want Live's global tempo stay away from my VSTi.

[yur2die4]

Would it be trouble for you to instead use Ableton Live's Arpeggiator midi effect? With that you are then capable of turning beat off Plus it has more flexibility in configurations.

[barciewicz]

It probably wouldn't be a problem (much more unconvenient though), but still the problem described in my first post persists:).

[barciewicz]

OK, so maybe you guys know how to solve a similar problem. Few words of introduction first:

I use Live to record more standard stuff (songs), no DJ-ing, so I find the whole Warp Engine more of a curse than a blessing. I don't want the software to 'correct' tracks I've recorded on piano or guitar, I like things to be slightly off beat etc. I also work in Arrangemnt View more.

Now:
I've made a nice preset on a VST delay, saved it, and want to use it my other set. But if I load it into any other pre-made song (set), the delay's tempo automatically matches with the song global tempo. So I have to either change the VST settings manually again (which makes the whole process of saving a preset nonsense) or change the global tempo (but this way all the other clips in the set are changed too, and I dont want them to).

So is it possible to turn the VST dependency on the global tempo off? (just as some built-in Ableton effects have their 'Sync' button)


Thanks in advance , and sorry for multiplying replies, but it really bothers me.

[Fresh!]

OK, so maybe you guys know how to solve a similar problem. Few words of introduction first:

I use Live to record more standard stuff (songs), no DJ-ing, so I find the whole Warp Engine more of a curse than a blessing. I don't want the software to 'correct' tracks I've recorded on piano or guitar, I like things to be slightly off beat etc. I also work in Arrangemnt View more.

Hi barciewicz, i realize almost a decade has gone by since you posted your question, so hopefully you'll get the notification. I too use Ableton exactly as you describe it, and i also find warping to be a bit of a curse. I've tried disabling it, but i'm apparently not doing it right. Anyway, here's a question about something i don't understand, and thought maybe you might have an idea.

The situation:
I recorded my cousin the other night, one vocal track and one midi track of the keyboard he was playing. The next day while looking at the project, i realized that his vocal track had been automatically warped. No problem, i can un-warp it, and i did, but what i don't understand is how does un-warping a vocal track affect the relationship to the MIDI track, if both were recorded together as a song? I don't see an option to un-warp the MIDI track.

After un-warping the audio track, i can't tell if his voice and piano are perfectly lined up because he sings obscure latin songs that are a bit jazzy, so it's hard for me to know if his vocals are in synch with the piano, as we had recorded them. Any input you or anyone else would have on this would be appreciated.

[danielesciolla]

Same question! Any solution to run the midi clip unlinked from the global Ableton bpm?

[Fresh!]

Hey Daniel, i didn't not find any solution for this issue, good luck with your quest.