Extracting Vocal Using Ableton

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Extracting Vocal Using Ableton

Post by BoxDJ » Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:06 am

Is this possible to extract vocals from a song using Ableton or do I have to use a different program? Sorry, I'm still relatively new to all of this.

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Re: Extracting Vocal Using Ableton

Post by AceLuby » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:41 pm

BoxDJ wrote:Is this possible to extract vocals from a song using Ableton or do I have to use a different program? Sorry, I'm still relatively new to all of this.
I couldn't do it w/ any type of success.
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Re: Extracting Vocal Using Ableton

Post by simonlb » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:51 pm

It's on Max4live, next to the "extract raw eggs from cake" function :)

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Re: Extracting Vocal Using Ableton

Post by crumhorn » Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:13 pm

There is a VST plugin called Kn0ck0ut that has a "centre extraction mode" that might be worth a try, but the results are not always wonderful, to say the least.

available here --> http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1319.html
Windows only.

Here's a short demonstration I made. The effect comes in after a few seconds then drops out then comes back in again. have a listen --> http://www.sharehost.co.uk/Live/jeff.wav
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Re: Extracting Vocal Using Ableton

Post by briwest » Sat Jan 30, 2010 6:57 am

Right now the only way I know how to do them without using one of those VST plugins to do a horrible vocal isolation job is by loading the instrumental (if you can get a copy of that), and the original song and having a plugin or similar realise where the vocals are and where the actual melody and beat is.

I watched a video of someone using Adobe Audition, the person giving the tutorial said that if you don't have the inverted track that's right next to the original aligned perfectly, then you get a detuned washed out sound from the instrumental part. I understand it now because the programme has to know the difference between the vocal track and the non vocal.

Most of this technology is new, the concept isn't, but since recordings have become more complex using stereo vocal recordings and vocal FX. It's just a lot more of a challenge for programmes to isolate vocals, but still possible.

My advice to get an instrumental is find someone who has done a vocal removal really well and then use the as the instrumental, then load the regular song, snap both using auto quantise and have fun.

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Re: Extracting Vocal Using Ableton

Post by Andymann » Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:54 am

you can also try it with the utility. results DO vary.

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?t=18782
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