M/S recording technique

[jschmidt]

While I am familiar with the idea behind the technique, I'm a little fuzzy on the implementation.
Now that I have a pair of multi-pattern mics (and have them mounted & correctly positioned on a stereo bar), I'm not sure what the best way is to route them from my pre's into Live. Should I record them in a single "stereo" track, or should I set them up to record in mono to two separate tracks? Anyone have any tips as to which will make post-prod easier?

[tlennon]

http://cas.umkc.edu/theatre/sound/msrec/msrecording.htm

Hope this helps

[jschmidt]

thanks! that's a great breakdown on the theory.
as I said, though, I'm familiar w/ the concept, but I'm not sure what the best way is to implement the technique in Live.
I currently am toying w/ sending the mic pair to a single 2-channel track (as opposed to two separate tracks, which would leave me two separate clips to deal with).
at this point, I assume I'll need to break out the Utility device. this is what I have so far:
http://imagebin.ca/view/VoqxiJ.html
http://imagebin.ca/view/TEyxrX.html
but I don't know if this is correct...

[Sage]

There are M/S decoders, not really sure how they work, I'd assume with a stereo channel.

Otherwise, you need 3 mono tracks, 2 of them recording the Side mic, pan them hard left & right and reverse the phase of one of them.

[longjohns]

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php? ... t=mid+side

[longjohns]

without having tried this, i suspect there's some over-thinking here

don't see why you need 3 tracks (or chains) because the l/r panning of anything on the 'side' chain will be preserved because it's a stereo chain.

(assuming you don't want to process left and right differently from each other, that is)

and looking at the pictures you posted, it seems critical that one chain has the utility at 0%, the other at 200%, and no need for macro control of that, because those settings are essential to the task. similarly, no pan macro for the chains is needed

???? i could be talking bs