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Panoramica
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by Panoramica » Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:30 am
Hi all,
I couldn't find any info online on how to collapse/expand the new Live 8 track groups with the APC.
So when I finally figured it out I'd thought I'd post the answer here in case anyone else is having this problem
* Hold down the 'Track Selection' button (for the group channel) for 1-2 seconds *
This expands the group if it is collapsed / collapses the group if it is expanded.
If this is old news to everyone I'd appreciate a link to some other source for this info - AFAIK there's no official info on new Live 8 features as they pertain to the APC40
Cheers,
Dan
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jschmidt
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by jschmidt » Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:48 pm
that's an awesome little APC 'easter egg', Dan - thanks!
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by hobbycore » Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:54 pm
Panoramica wrote:Hi all,
I couldn't find any info online on how to collapse/expand the new Live 8 track groups with the APC.
So when I finally figured it out I'd thought I'd post the answer here in case anyone else is having this problem
* Hold down the 'Track Selection' button (for the group channel) for 1-2 seconds *
This expands the group if it is collapsed / collapses the group if it is expanded.
If this is old news to everyone I'd appreciate a link to some other source for this info - AFAIK there's no official info on new Live 8 features as they pertain to the APC40
Cheers,
Dan
Where did you find this information?
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kb420
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by kb420 » Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:00 pm
Good find. I didn't know you could do that. Now if I could only find a way to control the faders in a drum rack.
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Panoramica
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by Panoramica » Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:26 pm
hobbycore wrote:Where did you find this information?
I didn't, I just worked it out for myself..
The first time I did it I was excited but I didn't know how I'd done it. So then I trawled Google - nothing

- and finally after trying various combinations on the APC stumbled across the right one!
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by squelcht » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:10 pm
kb420 wrote:Good find. I didn't know you could do that. Now if I could only find a way to control the faders in a drum rack.
True---That would be might nice

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Lord Kahn
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by Lord Kahn » Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:09 pm
Panoramica wrote:If this is old news to everyone I'd appreciate a link to some other source for this info - AFAIK there's no official info on new Live 8 features as they pertain to the APC40

That was mentioned in the release notes for Live 8.1
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by Panoramica » Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:03 pm
Lord Kahn wrote:That was mentioned in the release notes for Live 8.1
Great! Where would I find those?

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by Dr. Zoiberg » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:26 pm
great tip !
EDIT: but it doesn't work on my drum racks

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by Jeroen » Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:46 am
So what's the final verdict?
I do not understand why it does work on a grouped track but not on a drum rack created from slicing for example.
It is such a great feature, that's a pity that it does not work in general. Is it a bug or any other reason for this behavior?
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by ultraplay » Fri May 13, 2011 7:00 pm
Hey thanks for posting this!:)
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by Matt_Quinn » Tue May 17, 2011 8:10 pm
It's a great trick that would be 10000000x more useful if it worked with drum racks.
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by maze23a » Wed May 18, 2011 2:14 am
Hui,i did not know that up to now.
Nice one!
+1 that this should work in drumracks also!
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by taylortronic » Tue Jul 10, 2012 2:31 pm
THANK YOU! WOW! this opens up so many possibilities for my set. i could not be more grateful!