APC20 or Launchpad???

[gavgrant]

Chaps!

I know this has maybe has been discussed previously, but i'm stuck between the 2.

The faders on the apc20 appeals to me (coming from a DJ background) but the pads look ideal on the Launchpad. I'm also used to Novation/Automap as i own a remote SL keyboard.

Thoughts?? and please dont mention the APC40 as its outside my budget.

Cheers

[Pasha]

Chaps!

I know this has maybe has been discussed previously, but i'm stuck between the 2.

The faders on the apc20 appeals to me (coming from a DJ background) but the pads look ideal on the Launchpad. I'm also used to Novation/Automap as i own a remote SL keyboard.

Thoughts?? and please dont mention the APC40 as its outside my budget.

Cheers

Personally I'd go for the Launchpad. The APC 20 feels to me like a crippled controller.
Any owner?

[!STiTCH!]

Spending the extra $100 on the APC40 was probably the best decision I ever made. I say, save a lil more and get the APC40, the sheer amount of control and usablitlity for $300 can't be beat.

[Pasha]

Spending the extra $100 on the APC40 was probably the best decision I ever made. I say, save a lil more and get the APC40, the sheer amount of control and usablitlity for $300 can't be beat.

Good point. I went for LP but I already had BCF2000.

[gavgrant]

Chaps!

I know this has maybe has been discussed previously, but i'm stuck between the 2.

The faders on the apc20 appeals to me (coming from a DJ background) but the pads look ideal on the Launchpad. I'm also used to Novation/Automap as i own a remote SL keyboard.

Thoughts?? and please dont mention the APC40 as its outside my budget.

Cheers

Personally I'd go for the Launchpad. The APC 20 feels to me like a crippled controller.
Any owner?

"a crippled controller" ??? what do you mean?

[Pasha]

Chaps!

I know this has maybe has been discussed previously, but i'm stuck between the 2.

The faders on the apc20 appeals to me (coming from a DJ background) but the pads look ideal on the Launchpad. I'm also used to Novation/Automap as i own a remote SL keyboard.

Thoughts?? and please dont mention the APC40 as its outside my budget.

Cheers

Personally I'd go for the Launchpad. The APC 20 feels to me like a crippled controller.
Any owner?

"a crippled controller" ??? what do you mean?

Well, IMHO a controller should let you access all controls with one hand.
I mean if there's too much shift press to allow Buttons/Faders/Pad reuse that's what I call
'Crippled'. But this might be me. APC20 has too many controls for the space it uses.
Especially when faders are continuously remapped to something else at the press of a modifier key.
For me it's not practical. Conversely LP provides 'virtual' faders and thus is more manageable.
I'm a little radical here but it's genuinely what I think.
Look at the specs. LP provides less precision due to its 8x8 segments control system while AP20
has multiple mappings. Get what's best for you. A Controller should fit your style.
- Best
- Pasha

[gavgrant]

Well, IMHO a controller should let you access all controls with one hand.
I mean if there's too much shift press to allow Buttons/Faders/Pad reuse that's what I call
'Crippled'. But this might be me. APC20 has too many controls for the space it uses.
Especially when faders are continuously remapped to something else at the press of a modifier key.
For me it's not practical. Conversely LP provides 'virtual' faders and thus is more manageable.
I'm a little radical here but it's genuinely what I think.
Look at the specs. LP provides less precision due to its 8x8 segments control system while AP20
has multiple mappings. Get what's best for you. A Controller should fit your style.
- Best
- Pasha[/quote]


cheers Pasha. I see your point. I've just started bidding for an APC40 on e-bay for not much more than the APC20 so fingers crossed

[Tone Deft]

APC40 and APC20 give you options. buy the other bits of gear, read up on the APC to really understand what it does then decide which is right. in hindsight I could've gone with an APC20 instead, but I still love the APC.

[zeitgeist]

FYI: If you're in the US, the APC40 is now available for $250 from Amazon. Seems crazy to even consider an APC20. (But I don't think the price drops have spread to Europe.)

[Pasha]

Well, IMHO a controller should let you access all controls with one hand.
I mean if there's too much shift press to allow Buttons/Faders/Pad reuse that's what I call
'Crippled'. But this might be me. APC20 has too many controls for the space it uses.
Especially when faders are continuously remapped to something else at the press of a modifier key.
For me it's not practical. Conversely LP provides 'virtual' faders and thus is more manageable.
I'm a little radical here but it's genuinely what I think.
Look at the specs. LP provides less precision due to its 8x8 segments control system while AP20
has multiple mappings. Get what's best for you. A Controller should fit your style.
- Best
- Pasha

cheers Pasha. I see your point. I've just started bidding for an APC40 on e-bay for not much more than the APC20 so fingers crossed [/quote]

Glad to be of any help
Good Luck for the bid!

[Crubier]

For 40€ less than the APC40, and 90€ more than the APC20, I would propose Launchpad + BCF2000
They're part of my setup because I think that this solution is more flexible and expandable. Plus, you got the motorized faders, which are a must to my point of view.

[gavgrant]

For 40€ less than the APC40, and 90€ more than the APC20, I would propose Launchpad + BCF2000
They're part of my setup because I think that this solution is more flexible and expandable. Plus, you got the motorized faders, which are a must to my point of view.

yeah, but thats 2 units to carry about PLUS a soundcard & Laptop!

The APC's look ideal. I was initially going to get the launchpad, but the lack of faders is a real sticking point for me - and Ive heard its easy to knock other clips when changing volume...

mmmmm..... so far i'm 90% Akai, 10% Launchpad

[3phase]

in end of the day all this dedicated controlers are a waste ofmoey..especially with the pretty lousy software implrmentation they have even for theire dedicated program... it´s trash ..fake hardware..

we will see tons of them on the second hand market soon when the i pads get cheaper..

i would wait for that and get a apc 40 for less than 200 than...

sofar the compuer keyboard an a standard faderbox are still the better controlers for live because they even work with rewire and dont have extra weight..

[gavgrant]

well chaps it now looks like the APC40 or the APC20

i wont ONE unit WITH faders.

so...which is better???

[rutgermuller]

My philosophy is to have as few devices as possible, that's why I use the APC40, and love it.