DirectLink Lesson for new M-Audio Axiom 49

[justinmj]

Hi,

Wondering if anyone could steer me in the right direction. I have Live Suite 8.1.5, and one of those new Axiom 49 keyboards with the DirectLink functionality.

The transport and everything on the keyboard seems to work, but I'd like to view the lesson which M-Audio says is built in to Live after 8.1.4:

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=sup ... 2f2cf519f4

In the help view, under Control Surface Reference, I don't see M-Audio Axiom Direct Link in there. The older Axiom and Axiom Pro are in there, as are the usual Akai APC series, etc.

Anyone have any clues for me?

Thanks very much in advance.

Justin
Los Angeles

[thevariable]

I just got the 25 today and am using a pc. I used the latest drivers on their site for the axiom version 2. The go into preferences->midi and select axiom direct link as your in and out. If you have 8.1.4 or the latest 8.1.5 it will show up.

[justinmj]

DirectLink actually works, and it shows up in my preferences > MIDI. What doesn't show up is the "lesson" for it, in the "help" viewer.

I have 8.1.5...no lesson, just one marked "Axiom", which is the old version.

Do you show the lesson in your help viewer?

Check out this link: http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=sup ... 2f2cf519f4

I'm looking for what's in that screenshot at the bottom.

Thanks,
Justin

[Dennis DeSantis]

Hi justinmj,

This lesson didn't make it into the latest release, but should be available as of the next beta. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Best,

[lyovino]

Hi justinmj,

This lesson didn't make it into the latest release, but should be available as of the next beta. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Best,

Thanks Dennis, I thought I too was reading to fast and missing it in the Lessons area.
Is there any chance it could be posted as a PDF for viewing. This would be a big help to me and I'm sure many others.
I'm trying to decide on the purchase of the 2nd Generation Axiom and would love to see if the features are attractive to me.
Thanks!

[kaples]

When will the next beta be coming around?
I just picked up the axiom 61 mkII, not realizing how different it was from the last generation. I got directlink working, but I have no idea how to work it and for some reason none of the knobs can be midi assigned, anybody know whats up with that?
I'm sure its a very simple thing, if not... then maybe buying this was a big mistake...

[lyovino]

When will the next beta be coming around?
I just picked up the axiom 61 mkII, not realizing how different it was from the last generation. I got directlink working, but I have no idea how to work it and for some reason none of the knobs can be midi assigned, anybody know whats up with that?
I'm sure its a very simple thing, if not... then maybe buying this was a big mistake...

kapels

I also, just today picked up an Axiom 61 Gen 2. I do not believe it's a mistake on the purchase, they just simply forgot to include the "Axiom Directlink Control Surface Reference Lesson" in Lives Help menu".
I have been emailing them for three days now and I just don't think they understand the problem. I do not think it's necessary to have to wait for a Live update just to get this documentation included.

In Midi Sync Preferences it's simple to select the Control Surface from the top drop down, but below (In and Out Ports)are there to many variables to select in order for it to work properly. (My head is spinning from doing so)
I'm half way there but need the "Axiom Directlink Control Surface Reference Lesson" for added support on what to select and what Knob/Slider/Button/Encoder does what.

It might help if all concerned were to do the same, they may just send or post the the necessary Document that is needed for us to properly set up the new board. "Axiom Directlink Control Surface Reference Lesson"

[kaples]

Alright some successes here...

You can find the lesson in THIS beta (8.1.6b6): http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=149609

The lesson is there, although it is clearly still beta, they don't refer to the control surface as DirectLink...
But either way, they say which encoders do what etc. so its a start.

Now, can anybody figure out why I cannot override the DirectLink and midi-map the sliders and knobs like normal? It doesn't work even when I have directlink turned off.

[lyovino]

Alright some successes here...

You can find the lesson in THIS beta (8.1.6b6): http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=149609

The lesson is there, although it is clearly still beta, they don't refer to the control surface as DirectLink...
But either way, they say which encoders do what etc. so its a start.

Now, can anybody figure out why I cannot override the DirectLink and midi-map the sliders and knobs like normal? It doesn't work even when I have directlink turned off.

kaples,

Try turning off the Group button and do midi learn and then save it to your Default Set in Live's Prefs.
I've managed to get Omnisphere Faders and Pans to the Encoders. I have the faders in Live, Mute and Solo. My devices are mapped.
I just cannot get Pan or Record enable. Would you mind taking some screen shots of the "Axiom Directlink Control Surface Reference Lesson" ?
If not I understand..

[kaples]

woo false alarm, figured out how to midi map everything. I just didn't have it set up right in prefs.

Now a new problem, the encoders are way to slow. I switched the acceleration curves to the fastest and they are still slow. I need a much more 1 to 1 turning ratio, like one whole turn of the knob should be all the way from 0 to 127.

hrmm...
Also, if you just download that beta I pointed to before the lesson is in there with all the other controller surfaces.

[lyovino]

Do you have record arm a track and pan?
There is a video on how to speed up the encoders on the old Axiom.
I'm pretty sure it's the same parameter, which can be tweaked on the newer one... it's on You-Tube
I would D/L the beta, but then I wouldn't really know what files would be left over after deleting it.

edit: .. here it is, maybe this might help? .. http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=XGga1PA ... re=related

[peter_a_KIRN]

Okay, I'm having the same problem -- what are the correct settings for MIDI in order to enable DirectLink (now in 8.2)?

I have Axiom DirectLink selected as the control surface device (formerly "2nd gen" Axiom), and select the DirectLink in and out ports for Control Surface in and out.

Then I select Axiom USB ... or DirectLink, have tried both ... as enabled for input under Track.

That's how I'm reading M-Audio's docs. I've tried various permutations, but nothing seems to kick the Axiom into DirectLink mode. I suspect there's a combination I haven't yet tried... or that it doesn't work on 8.2. What are the preferences settings for those of you for whom this is working, and is anyone using 8.2 rather than 8.1.6?

[kaples]

Yeah directLink was working for me in the last version, and suddenly after installing 8.2 it don't work no more. Ableton, fix this ASAP please?

[JGrimm]

I too have been unable to get directlink to function. I tried sending an e-mail to support:

Hi,

The DirectLink with my 2nd Gen Axiom 49 does not function. I am running Vista 32bit SP2, with Live 8.2.
In the preferences pane, I select "Axiom DirectLink" as the control surface and "Axiom DirectLink" for the Input and Output.
For the MIDI ports I am given THREE Input options: "Axiom 49 MIDI In", "Axiom_DirectLink Input (Axiom 49 DirectLink In)", and "Axiom 49 Ext MIDI In"
For the Outputs I have two options: "Axiom 49 MIDI Out", and "Axiom_DirectLink..."
Having tried activating some or all of these Inputs/Outputs, I am still unable to get DirectLink to function.
MIDI track in indicates a signal for either Axiom In or DirectLink In as the track Input type, however, only "Axiom 49 MIDI In" actually causes an instrument to play back a note. Using the faders sometimes edits a parameter in a couple different VST's.

Trying the Axiom in another USB port produced FIVE Input options!

It may be worth mentioning that I originally had a 1st Gen Axiom that was replaced. I did take special care in uninstalling the driver for this before proceeding with installing the driver from M-Audio for 2nd Gen Axiom. I then upgraded Live to 8.2.
I have tried re-installing the driver and 8.2 to no effect.

Any assistance in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

- J


I received a response in impressively little time which told me to follow the lesson in setting up DirectLink. I DID follow the lesson the first time, and after review, I don't find it any more insightful.

I suspect that this is a bug within the latest release (8.2). I do hope that a new release will be forthcoming.

On the off chance however that it's a problem with the board, I am going to take it somewhere to test with another DAW. It'll hafta wait for now as I have the flu.

[kaples]

Its definitely a bug in 8.2 since we are all having the same issue. DirectLink don't work. It used to in the last version. FIX IT PLEASE ABLETON!