guitar synth as midi controller for live? can it work?

yogitengu · Post by **yogitengu** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:15 am

Does any one know if you can use a guitar equipped with a Roland Guitar Synth pickup as a midi controller with Live (or Logic Pro 7 or Reason etc)? I can't play keys as guitar is my main instrument and I'm trying to find a better way to do midi input. Thanks in advance!

5inusoid · Post by **5inusoid** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:17 am

Sure it will work, but be prepared for major latency issues. All the Roland Gitsynth systems have midi out. Theres a whole tutorial on using a midi guitar setup on the Propellerheads website.

arpegio · Post by **arpegio** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:13 pm

we use roland gr-20 with a gk-3 pickup and it works pretty well
because of the latency you may have to adjust your technique a little
and maybe envelopes on some sounds
it also looks more sexy when playing live
if you play the guitar
than to be hunched over your laptop
tweaking reaktor parameters
@rp

deepdirtydub · Post by **deepdirtydub** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:14 am

is there no way to get better latency with one of those pickups?

i'll buy one regardless but there has to be some way to make it better ... right?

Hypomixolydian · Post by **Hypomixolydian** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:27 am

arpegio wrote:we use roland gr-20 with a gk-3 pickup and it works pretty well
because of the latency you may have to adjust your technique a little
and maybe envelopes on some sounds
it also looks more sexy when playing live
if you play the guitar
than to be hunched over your laptop
tweaking reaktor parameters
@rp

How much latency is there?? I was thinking of getting the GR-20. But if it is more than 10 ms I might not bother.

Danji · Post by **Danji** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:56 am

I play a "Godin Multiac Nylon" Guitar with an "Axon AX100" Guitar to Midi Converter. This is very cool, not more then 8ms latency. The people do not belive and say "what!! you play Violin with a Guitar!! wow, you are so cool" an then they buy my CD.

live4live · Post by **live4live** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:34 pm

I use a GI-20 at only 3ms latency and it works great. The only time it has trouble keeping up is for those fast hammer on and pull off lines. Even responds to string bending. Kinda pricey though.

yogitengu · Post by **yogitengu** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:32 pm

I play a "Godin Multiac Nylon" Guitar with an "Axon AX100" Guitar to Midi Converter. This is very cool, not more then 8ms latency. The people do not belive and say "what!! you play Violin with a Guitar!!

and,

we use roland gr-20 with a gk-3 pickup and it works pretty well
because of the latency you may have to adjust your technique a little
and maybe envelopes on some sounds
it also looks more sexy when playing live

That's exciting news. Would you mind explaining to me how you set it up,
for example what plugs into what and what each thing does as I'm new to midi/midi controllers so I don't understand all the intricacies.

Thanks in advance,

Yogi

Danji · Post by **Danji** » Fri Dec 24, 2004 11:51 am

This is a good "Guitar to Midi Forum"
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/midiguitar/

yogitengu · Post by **yogitengu** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:43 am

Thanks Danji-just joined!

Moonburnt · Post by **Moonburnt** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 11:05 am

I use a GI-10 as a midi controller and i don't find that the latency is noticeably worse than from a keyboard. A bigger prob than latency for me is getting realistic/consistent dynamics, but it's a very handy piece of kit nonetheless.